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Hi Dr. Bill!
Please respond asap. I had 1/2 a shot of rum Wednesday night around midnight, probably close to the alc content of one beer. It is now Friday night and I'm called into test tomorrow morning at 8am. So it would be approx 56 hrs. I'm kind of freaking out this is the third time in less than a week I've been called in. what is your opinion of my likeliness to pass? I'm 6'3 165 w a pretty high metabolism. Should I take any supplements, or anything? Please let me know asap.
No one on this site will tell you how to pass the test. We won't go against the law on this site.
Chances are you'll be fine, and test clear. But, if you do will that stop you from doing something you're obviously not supposed to be doing?
We are able and willing to help you stop drinking. We are not able or willing to help you break the law.
I understand. Thanks for your response. It seemed dr.bill had some insight into this matter with his bg is all. I meant it theoretically speaking. And to be honest, no, I will not stop doing what someone else tells me to stop doing because they simply told me to stop doing it. I'm an aries and very stubborn this way. I've concluded that this much sobriety is unhealthy. I decided tonight just to go to jail for 30 days and be done with this. Living a life like this is not living. I hate it. I genuinely tried but I cannot run away from myself. And ultimately no one else has a right to judge me. I smoked some ing pot and don't have a crack baby nor lost any relatioinships, nor anything else with a negative impact on my life with exception of interfering with a law. Thank you for your response though.
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Originally Posted by bretttt
Hey, if you want to be a drug addict, than that's your right. I can't stop you. I'm here if you decide that your life is worth more, and you want to live it, but only you can decide that. I can't make you hit bottom and wake up, you have to get there on your own.
So have fun in jail. I hope it's worth it.
Good luck.
I had to take an ETG test also and I drank and 48 hours later got tested. Since it is a very in depth test which test for the presence of alcohol enzymes in your liver through urine it came up positive and a fairly high amount, or so they told me. After speaking to the person that took it they said it can detect alcohol up to 5 days because of the comprehensive test it is. So I know that's probably not what you want to hear but all I could say is drink a lot of water and get yourself on the correct track, coming from a recovering alcoholic, it is hard to quit but I believe you should seek out help, If you cannot afford it you could try your county office for help with your addiction, wish you the best of luck
Alty, I'm sorry if I was implying that you were judging me or anything. I'm sorry if I come off to not be open minded. And I pologize. I'm just so frustrated. I do genuinely value your feedback. I have to ask out of curiosity, you say you're here if I decide my life is worth more than being a drug addict. That term is so negative to me but maybe I really am. Are you a spnsor in AA or something to that effect? I'm just curious what your bg is with this kind of thing, in a nutshell. I think it's safe to say we both know there nothing fun about going to jail. I don't want to go which is why I'm in a program, but I feel like I'm in a trap where I'm doomed to suffer one way or another until I'm free...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
Dr. Bill has taken a temporary hiatus from the site.
No need to apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretttt
I've never been to AA or any other program. I have suffered with addiction. That's all I'll say on this subject because I've never posted about it on this site, and I really don't want to start now. ;)
I do understand how hard it is to stay away from something you have an addiction to, but I also know it can be done. Many people sing the praises of groups like AA. That particular group was never something I could fully embrace, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a try.
Fact is, you do have a problem, which is why you're here asking to beat an EtG test. If you can accept that it's time to stop trying to beat the test, and start not having to worry about the test because you have nothing to hide, than you can change this around.
It's trite, but it's true. You have one shot in this life. One chance to do it right. You will make mistakes along the way, we all do, we're all human, but it's in your power to get back on track. It's in your power to change this.
So lets take this one step at a time. Your situation right now, there's really nothing you can do about it but hope that you pass. If you do, than you thank your lucky stars and you start fresh, you start a new day, a day without drugs. One day at a time. You don't have to think "I have to be clean and sober forever". Just get through today. When today is over, tomorrow is another day, another today that you have to get through. It will get easier as the time goes by.
If you can't do this on your own, which most people can't, that looking into a group like AA is not a bad thing. Give it a try, you may find that the support of other people going through exactly what you're going through now, is a great help.
I'll be here, along with everyone else on this site, to cheer you on.
Does that sound like something you can do? I believe you can, if you try. :)
I am not sure what program you are in or why, but some times people end up in legal situations and are required to test that aren't addicts. I understand some people have a real problem and are truly addicts, but I get tired of people that respond to these post who are judgemental and self righteous. I respect the responses of people who truly want to help others in a positive way and can bring real help to the table versus criticizm and judgement. I am in drug court because I had a physical addiction to xaanx. I got physically addicted under a doctors care. I was going through enormous stress with a business situation in 2008. A doctor suggested it for anxiety and stress to help me sleep. He kept me on it for two years. I didn't know that I was physically addicted until I ran out of medication on a trip. I told the doctor and he wanted to keep me on it or label me a drug addict. He did not ween me off which is very dangerous and I have had two seizures trying to get off it. A lot of doctors don't want to help and also label you as a drug addict when you are looking for help. I read tons of forums and tried to do it myself with valium. The weaning was working until I got busted ordering trazadone in the final weaning process off the net. The police raided my home and arrested me. I ended up in drug court and thank GOD that I was off the benzos because I could have died stopping cold turkey (I know from personal experience) and the program requires no drugs or alcohol. They do not offer help in the initial start of the program. They just throw you in jail which is dangerous for people that have been on benzos or alcohol. I personally think the law over rides medical. Anyway, I have never been addicted to anything besides xaanx and don't have an issue with alcohol. I am in the program for 14 months. Let me tell you, most of our society socially drink and it is hard. I have been in many work situations where you meet for drinks and its difficult not to take one sip. I am not promoting partying in this type of program, but its difficult. This Christmas I had to come up with excuses with friends and family when I got asked if I would like a glass of wine. I personally have never smoked pot, but have heard from numerous people that it is not addictive or any worst than alcohol. I do believe thst some people have a problem and it affects their life in many ways and need help, but there people that end up in situations that are tested for alcohol that are not alcoholics. Peer pressure is tough. The people that truly help are the ones that have anunderstanding and can offer resources and suggestions. Sitting on your high horse and criticizing helps no one... by the way, one drink is gone in 24 hours or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
You quoted my post when you wrote this, so I'm assuming that you're talking to me when you say "sitting on your high horse and criticizing". If so, I'd like you to point out where my high horse is, and where I criticized. I'd also like to point out the poster in question here, has admitted to being an addict, so no one is jumping to conclusions here. We all know why the poster is undergoing regular ETG testing.Quote:
The people that truly help are the ones that have anunderstanding and can offer resources and suggestions. Sitting on your high horse and criticizing helps no one... by the way, one drink is gone in 24 hours or less.
His initial post didn't state that he had a problem. He had a very small amount of alcohol and Dr Bill is an expert and offers very valuable information on this site. People come to this site for peace of mind. The people that do have a problem only stop when they want to or the consequences get too severe. I have to undergo EtG testing for over a year. I haven never been addicted to anything except for xaanx. That was because I couldn't get over the withdrawals (no sleep for months). Once my body got back yo normal I have no desire what so ever to take another one. I have found it very difficult when I have to meet clients for drinks not to have a sip or if someone orders a bottle at dinner. A lot of people are subject to drug and EtG testing that are not addicts. I believe criminal and family courts require it under certain circumstances that are not all centered around drug alcohol charges or problems.A lot of people cruise these forums to pass judgement on the posters and offer no valuable help. So, what is the point?
Kattie did you see the person talking to Alty and listening. The OP had no issue with what she had said so why should you? I would think if it bothered the OP they would have said something. I wonder who needs to get off their high horse?
He originally asked a question and I answered it. A lot of people come to this site for peace of mind and not lecturing. Dr Bill does a great job of providing valuable information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
I agree, Dr. Bill does do a great job, but he's not here right now, and hasn't been for months. That leaves these questions to either be unanswered, or answered by others on this site. As for peace of mind, helping someone with their addiction, not by breaking the law and providing information how to beat an ETG test, but by suggesting help for their addiction, offers much more peace of mind in the long run. It offers the chance to stay out of jail, to get their life back, to become a member of society.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie1978
I believe that you're reading this thread and feel that people are talking about you, and your issue. They're not. This thread isn't about you, it's about the person that posted it. Since that person doesn't have an issue with what's being written, what gives you the right to come here and look down your nose at people that are trying to help this person?
DrBill was still here and answering questions in October and hopes to return sometime in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie1978
That is my point, he had already committed the crime and was wondering if it would be detected and looking for peace of mind. I answered his question. It is well published that one drink is gone in less than 24 hours. Just because he is required to take an EtG test does not automatically make him an addict as the previous poster suggested. That is making an assumption because he had one drink that he is an addict. That may very well be the case, but I don't believe you can label everyone an "addict" because you are (referring to the poster who responded)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
If you had just come here simply to answer the question, we wouldn't be having this discussion. You answered his question, and then decided to take shots at the other people that had answered, because you didn't like what they (me in particular) had to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie1978
The nice thing about this site is that you have no right to dictate how I, or anyone else, answers. In other words, you may not like it what I have to say, but that's just too bad.
The part of his post that I responded to most, was this;
That's when I suggested that he seriously consider getting help for his addiction, and he responded positively to my suggestion.Quote:
I've concluded that this much sobriety is unhealthy. I decided tonight just to go to jail for 30 days and be done with this. Living a life like this is not living. I hate it. I genuinely tried but I cannot run away from myself.
Yes, the people that come here just want to stay out of jail, but constantly giving them the tools to pass ETG tests, and not telling them how to get the help they obviously need, is not only unconscionable, but unethical, in my opinion.
So, you go right ahead and answer these questions the way you see fit. If they don't break the law, or the site rules,you have the right to do that. But, in the same token, I have the right to answer these questions the way I see fit, with the same criteria.
I will not continue posting unless the OP (original poster) comes back. His question has been answered, he's been offered help if he so chooses, and now it's up to him. The fact that he hasn't come back means one of two things, he either doesn't want the help, or he's in jail because he didn't pass the test. Either way, this thread is over without his involvement.
Good luck.
The original responder told him to "have fun and I hope it was worth it". He had already drank and would have to suffer the consequences if detected. My whole point was that statement just rubbed it in a little more and was completely unnecessary.
That original responder was me. Yes, he had already drank, and yes, he would suffer the consequences if it were detected. He had also admitted to having a problem. Sometimes you have to slap someone to make them wake up. Did you read a few posts later where he apologized to me, and started to listen to the options I had given him, started fighting for himself, instead of fighting for his addiction, or did you conveniently choose to ignore those posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by katie1978
That unnecessary post got him to open him, and got him to listen.
Either way, I'll say it again. You may find it unnecessary, you may not like what I wrote, but it's not up to you. It's up to me what I write, and as long as it's not against the law or the rules of this site, you have no say in it. So get over it.
Now, enough. This thread isn't about you, or me, it's about the OP. If you want to continue discussing what I and others write, and how you don't like it, then start a thread in the discussion forum. Do not continue to hijack this thread.
Well, it seems that you are the one with the problem and have to have the last word. I am allowed to have my opinion as well and post. You obviously have issues with every response that I have made or would have already let it go. I am finished.
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