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  • Sep 9, 2012, 12:21 PM
    Fire6223
    Colmen Evcon Furnace Model # DGAH056BBSA
    I have attempted resetting the furnace a few times, each time it lights for about two seconds and then goes out. It repeats the process two more times after that but only without igniting. Then the diagnostic light starts flashing and remains flashing until reset. I know because I sat there and watched for twenty minutes to see if I could get a pattern I could pick out, and no by the way I couldn't.
  • Sep 10, 2012, 07:55 AM
    wmproop
    Is possible you have a bad flame senser
  • Sep 10, 2012, 07:56 AM
    wmproop
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wmproop View Post
    is possible you have a bad flame senser

    It can be cleaned with fine sandpaper or steelwool
  • Sep 10, 2012, 08:20 AM
    Fire6223
    Any idea on how to get to it?
  • Sep 10, 2012, 09:58 AM
    wmproop
    Do you have a parts or info sheet on the unit, if so look it over the parts should be labeled,I` m not sure if a coleman has a flame senser, not knowing how old the furnace is
  • Sep 10, 2012, 11:14 AM
    Fire6223
    Well the papers have copyright dates of 2001 and its under Red T products If that helps any. But I found the parts list, I'm not seeing anything for a flame sensor.
  • Sep 11, 2012, 07:01 PM
    Grady White
    During the ignition sequence, can you see a glow through the small window above the burner?
  • Sep 12, 2012, 04:51 PM
    Fire6223
    Yes I can.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 05:56 PM
    Grady White
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fire6223 View Post
    Yes I can.

    I'm not sure but that furnace might use the ignitor as the flame sensor. Some do but some have a separate flame rod. Look on the control module to see if there is a wire connected to a terminal marked "sense" or "sensor". If there is such a wire, trace it to the other end. It should be a porcelain rod with bare metal rod sticking out the other end. Remove that rod, clean it with a scotch brite pad, reinstall & try the heater again.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Fire6223
    All right I'll try that. Thank you. I'll let know the conclusion or if there is. Lol
  • Sep 12, 2012, 06:33 PM
    Fire6223
    All right I see a wire for a sensor rod. And says something about it having a "hot surface ignitor".
  • Sep 14, 2012, 06:57 PM
    Grady White
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fire6223 View Post
    Alright I see a wire for a sensor rod. And says something about it having a "hot surface ignitor".

    There should be two terminals or a plug for the Hot Surface Ignitor (HSI) & a separate one for the sensor. Is this the case or not?
  • Sep 14, 2012, 07:34 PM
    Fire6223
    There are two separate wires. The yellow wire leads the sensor rod.
  • Sep 15, 2012, 07:46 AM
    Grady White
    Remove the sensor & clean the metal part which sticks into the flame with scotch brite, very fine sandpaper, or steel wool. Reinstall & try the furnace.
  • Sep 15, 2012, 08:04 AM
    Fire6223
    So I got to remove the entire module? If so it looks like the pipes have been cemented in.
  • Sep 16, 2012, 08:57 AM
    Grady White
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fire6223 View Post
    So I gotta remove the entire module? If so it looks like the pipes have been cemented in.

    No, not the module, maybe the burner, but they are super easy to remove. You may need a new burner flange gasket. I honestly don't remember what the burner assembly looks like on that particular furnace. A few pictures would be helpful.
  • Sep 19, 2012, 08:13 AM
    Fire6223
    I wish I could post pictures Grady, but I'm doing this from my phone so the only I can do pictures is through email or something like that.
  • Sep 19, 2012, 06:53 PM
    Grady White
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fire6223 View Post
    I wish I could post pictures Grady, but I'm doing this from my phone so the only I can do pictures is through email or something like that.

    Try tracing that sensor wire to the burner. You may be able to figure out how to remove the sensor. I did a search for your model number & found an installation manual but the pictures weren't much help.
  • Sep 19, 2012, 07:48 PM
    Fire6223
    Yeah, I thought the same thing. I've followed the wire to just beside the module. I can't figure out how to get it out past that point without pulling everything. I don't want to end up pulling that wire out and end up breaking something.haha
  • Sep 20, 2012, 03:45 PM
    Grady White
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fire6223 View Post
    Yeah, I thought the same thing. I've followed the wire to just beside the module. I can't figure out how to get it out past that point without pulling everything. I don't want to end up pulling that wire out and end up breaking something.haha

    Don't pull on that wire. Here is a link to the installation manual (with a parts diagram) http://homeappliance.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/york_a_johnson_controls_company/dgah056bbsa.html?idRes=15054123

    Is the gas line piped with steel pipe or is there a flexible line? If piped with steel, there should be a shut off valve & union to aid in disconnecting the gas from the burner.

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