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  • Aug 21, 2012, 08:07 PM
    paraclete
    Just remember! The groundswell started here
    After successfully forcing the cigarette companies into plain packaging, a new idea has surfaced in Australia, why not ban the noxious product altogether. This must be a tobacco companies worst nightmare
    Bid to ban cigarettes for anyone born after 2000
  • Aug 21, 2012, 09:15 PM
    DrBill100
    Thanks for the article.

    The comment from the MP Ivan Dean struck me:

    “This would mean that we would have a generation of people not exposed to tobacco products”


    Immediately thought of the statement of the American prohibitionist Rev. Billy Sunday on the morning they enacted alcohol prohibition in the US:

    “The reign of tears is over! The slums will soon be only a memory. We will turn our prisons into factories and our jails into storehouses and corncribs. Men will walk upright now, women will smile and the children will laugh. Hell will be forever for rent!”
  • Aug 22, 2012, 08:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Just ban everything.
  • Aug 22, 2012, 09:35 PM
    paraclete
    We already ban noxious narcotics so why not ban tobacco is it any different to coca or marijahana. It has undesirable impacts and yes there was nothing wrong with a ban on alcohol, there are countries in the world where it isn't legal and life goes on. Criminals will do what criminals do, this is no reason for abdicating in favour of legalisation and let's face it what was permitted then would not be permitted today
  • Sep 4, 2012, 06:59 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Just ban everything.

    If progressives have their way they will ban everything. Well, except abortion.
  • Sep 4, 2012, 04:33 PM
    paraclete
    I think it is more a case of dealing with public health consequences, the more a government becomes involved in provision of health care, the more they will seek to control the costs and nicotine addiction has some severe impacts on the costs of health care in the long run.

    In a progressively minded society, society works to reduce the incidence of death, excepting as you say in the case of abortion, so therefore certain activities with high mortality rates are targeted
  • Sep 5, 2012, 05:54 AM
    paraclete
    Another nail in the coffin for the coffin nails

    http://www.news.com.au/world/india-c...-1226465961027
  • Sep 7, 2012, 11:05 PM
    talaniman
    Anything they ban, a criminal can get you cheap!
  • Sep 8, 2012, 09:49 PM
    paraclete
    Not the issue Tal we can all get cheap and nasty, but not everyone is going to go searching for it. I applaud India's step If you have been to Asia you know how noxious the place is with cigarette smoke. But this isn't a ban except on effective advertising, that's why the tobacco companies are going ape, they can still sell their products but you have to look harder to decide which brand to buy. In illiterate countries, they rely heavily on logos and brands
  • Sep 21, 2012, 06:34 AM
    paraclete
    Here's another first, once again we are leading the charge against rampaging unrepentive capitalism

    Lehman Brothers ordered to pay compensation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
  • Sep 21, 2012, 07:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Maybe you can get them to go after Obama buddy and bundler Jon Corzine, nobody seems to want to go after him here.
  • Sep 21, 2012, 04:02 PM
    paraclete
    Nah we just want our money back

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