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  • Aug 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
    speechlesstx
    A new, new low from the Obama campaign
    While telling Virginians that with their help they can win North Carolina again, he told the crowd that if Romney wins he will “put y’all back in chains.”

    Asked for comment, Obama campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter (the same Cutter who lied about the steelworker ad), said:

    Quote:

    I think [President Obama] probably agrees with Joe Biden’s sentiments. I mean he’s using a metaphor about what’s going to happen … look, I appreciate the faux outrage from the Romney campaign. If you want to talk about the use of words, then take a look at Mitt Romney’s stump speech where he basically calls the president un-American. So does Andrea Saul agree with that language?
    Apparently if Romney and Ryan don't kill your spouse or push your granny over a cliff, they're going to put you in chains... and the president agrees with that sentiment.

    What's the next new lowdown, sleazy BS to come from the Obama campaign going to be? Never mind, you're just going to tell me he didn't really say what he said.
  • Aug 14, 2012, 06:36 PM
    tomder55
    Dems playing the race card again. Biden gets away with it because even commentators on our side will give him a pass because he's so gaffy .

    "Look, this guy is so off the wall that he is able to make lifetime of gaffes and he doesn't get attacked for it because nobody expects any better. You know, it's just the crazy uncle in the attic, as Ross Perot used to say,"... "He turns out to be the crazy uncle in the attic. I think it is offensive and if anybody else had said it, it would have been a huge deal. But Joe Biden, is it a big f'ing deal? I don't know,"(Charles Krauthammer on 'Special Report ' today. )

    Krauthammer went on to say (when the panel reacted to ' big f'ing deal' ) ,that he was using a direct quote from Biden.
  • Aug 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
    paraclete
    You want to talk about Biden's gaffes, How about Romney, he is fast becoming another GWB - must be a republican thing

    "Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are.(August 2011)

    "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."(January 2012)

    "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there."(January 2012)

    "I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back."

    "It's hard to know just how well [the 2012 London Olympics] will turn out. July 2012


    "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." .

    . "[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs."(February 2012)

    "Join me in welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan." August 2012
  • Aug 15, 2012, 04:21 AM
    tomder55
    "I wish to remain an eternal enigma to myself and to others." (Mad Joe 'Lutwig' Biden)
  • Aug 15, 2012, 04:59 AM
    excon
    Hello Steve:

    I don't want to talk about name calling... I want to talk about ISSUES of import...

    Speaking of which, if the Ryan Medicare plan is so good, why won't he let those 55 and older share in it?

    excon
  • Aug 15, 2012, 05:11 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    By the way, calling the Obama campaign a campaign of HATE is a new low too...

    Steve, the only problem I have with your outrage, is that you're only outraged about the Obama team, and you IGNORE the crap coming from the other side... As I've said before, I can't get behind your outrage... To me, it seems FAKE!

    excon
  • Aug 15, 2012, 05:53 AM
    tomder55
    Well for one thing,before the Dems went completely radical socialist there was plenty of them that supported 'premium support' plans ;including Bill Clintoon in 1997 who's 'National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare' designed a plan built around premium support. Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon is a co-sponsor of the plan ;and no one ever accused him of being a right-winger.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 05:58 AM
    paraclete
    Wah, Wah, WAH! Tom stop crying like a baby, there is nothing radically socialist in your nation, you have someone trying to implent a very poor version of universal health care and trying to stimulate an economy whilst trying to get a fair tax system, this isn't radical socialist but some form of common sense. You are bleating because it might cost you some money but I wonder does it really? The reality is the world you know is gone and you know who destroyed it, you did, you and your crony politics
  • Aug 15, 2012, 06:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    You want to talk about Biden's gaffes, How about Romney, he is fast becoming another GWB - must be a republican thing

    "Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are.(August 2011)

    "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."(January 2012)

    "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there."(January 2012)

    "I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back."

    "It's hard to know just how well [the 2012 London Olympics] will turn out. July 2012


    "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." .

    . "[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs."(February 2012)

    "Join me in welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan." August 2012

    How the hell does an honest mistake compare to branding Romney a tax dodger, accusing him of causing cancer, Ryan of pushing grannies over the cliff and telling a largely black audience they'll put them back in chains?

    A gaffe is a gaffe, these are intentional, indefensible character assassinations.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 06:34 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    I don't wanna talk about name calling... I wanna talk about ISSUES of import...

    Speaking of which, if the Ryan Medicare plan is so good, why won't he let those 55 and older share in it?

    excon

    No sir, we're not going off topic if I can help it. This is about the Obots and their cohorts reaching new levels of sleaze and slime. Really ex, the country deserves better.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 06:37 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    By the way, calling the Obama campaign a campaign of HATE is a new low too...

    Steve, the only problem I have with your outrage, is that you're only outraged about the Obama team, and you IGNORE the crap coming from the other side... As I've said before, I can't get behind your outrage... To me, it seems FAKE!

    excon

    What crap? Explain please, using Obama's own words against him? Puhleeeaase, that's fair game. Starting a tax dodger rumor, accusing him of causing cancer, and now this bullsh*t? Gimme a freakin' break.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 06:50 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    If you DON'T see BOTH campaigns slogging around in the mud then we got NOTHING to talk about.

    excon
  • Aug 15, 2012, 07:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    If you DON'T see BOTH campaigns slogging around in the mud then we got NOTHING to talk about.

    excon

    I asked you to explain, you haven't.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 07:24 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I asked you to explain, you haven't.

    Hello again, Steve:

    We've been over this... Romney lied when he said Obama said, "you didn't build that". He lied when he said Obama is removing the work requirement from welfare. He lied about Obama wanting to REMOVE GI's from the voter rolls. He lied about when he quit Bain Capital... I could go on, and on.. But, you get the message.. Romney is a LIAR.

    You don't agree. You think he's a paragon of virtue, and Obama is the liar. Now, both tal and I ADMITTED that Harry Reid was lying. We admitted the ad accusing Romney of killing somebody was sleazy. And, I ADMIT to you right now, that Joe Biden dipped his toes in racial politics...

    We admit stuff like that because it's IMPOSSIBLE to ignore it. Yet, you seem to IGNORE the crap your side does. So, as long as ONE of us is IGNORING the facts, there's NOTHING to talk about...

    excon
  • Aug 15, 2012, 08:05 AM
    speechlesstx
    Obama said "you didn't build that."

    Congress specifically shielded TANF from the waiver process to keep work requirements intact, this administration unilaterally overwrote the will of congress.

    I have no idea what you're talking about GIs and voter rolls or where this lie about when he quit Bain evidence is either. So far, the only one lying is your side.

    P.S. I don't think anyone is a paragon of virtue beyond my my departed mom, my friend Shar and my wife's late granny. I expect a tough fight, but I've had enough pure sleaze from the hopenchangey team. If you want to win by pure sleaze that's up to you, but we deserve better.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 08:16 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    That's what I figured.. Are you going to ask me to explain again, so you can tell me what I already knew??

    excon
  • Aug 15, 2012, 08:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    I keep answering with facts and you keep answering with rhetoric. Obama did say that, tough for him. HHS did give themselves the power what congress told them specifically not to do. Fact.

    And I repeat, I have no idea what you're talking about GIs and voter rolls or where this lie about when he quit Bain evidence is either. Since you choose not put up, back to the Biden's sleazy remark. You going to defend it?
  • Aug 15, 2012, 08:39 PM
    talaniman
    Another straw man argument? Your side has been throwing rocks for years, but can't stand it when you find out my side can throw rocks to.

    Learn to duck!
  • Aug 16, 2012, 07:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Another straw man argument? Your side has been throwing rocks for years, but can't stand it when you find out my side can throw rocks to.

    Learn to duck!

    Dude, your side can't hit the broadside of a barn. They just throw crap out there and hope it sticks.
  • Aug 16, 2012, 07:22 AM
    talaniman
    Don't duck then, up to you.

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