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  • Jul 18, 2012, 01:12 PM
    bandro80
    Medical information on EtG tests
    If I had 2 oz. of vodka in a mixed drink on Friday night last drink at 11:30 pm will I pass a EtG test Monday at 5:30 pm figure about 66-68 hours between last drink and the test?
  • Jul 18, 2012, 03:06 PM
    DrBill100
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    if i had 2 oz. of vodka in a mixed drink on friday night last drink at 11:30 pm will i pass a etg test monday at 5:30 pm figure about 66-68 hours between last drink and the test?

    Can never promise you will pass an EtG test but if you fail it will not be due to the drink you had on Friday. That EtG will have been eliminated well before test time.
  • Jul 18, 2012, 03:40 PM
    Robert206
    I drank Friday night and Saturday throughout the day. Last drink was at 10pm on Saturday. I took a ETG test on Wednesday at 8pm. Will I pass?
  • Jul 18, 2012, 03:46 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by Robert206 View Post
    I drank Friday night and Saturday throughout the day. Last drink was at 10pm on Saturday. I took a ETG test on Wednesday at 8pm. Will I pass?

    About 92 hours between last drink and test?

    If so, EtG/EtS is seldom detected at that time interval regardless of amount consumed and assuming you have no liver or kidney disorder.
  • Jul 18, 2012, 03:55 PM
    Robert206
    No disorders that I am aware of. I ride my bike to and from work on Monday and Tuesdays, about a 3 1/2 mile roundtrip with a large hill on the way home. I am 34, 6'1", 250 lbs. I have been reading a lot of your posts and you seem to know a lot about this subject. Why do they even use this test?
  • Jul 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
    DrBill100
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    ...... Why do they even use this test?

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
  • Jul 18, 2012, 07:21 PM
    bandro80
    Would you explain that to me dr bill why I would fail the EtG test on Monday if it would not be the drink on Friday? Why would I fail? Thanks
  • Jul 18, 2012, 07:38 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    would you explain that to me dr bill why i would fail the etg test on monday if it would not be the drink on friday? why would i fail? thanks

    The Enzyme Immunoassay (EIA) used to screen for EtG is known to provide a high number of false positives. (1) EtG is very unstable in urine sample, post collection. (2) There are thousands of everyday products that contain sufficient amounts of ethanol to register a positive result if used or encountered within a 12-24 hour period pre-test.

    Bet that makes you feel better.

    1) Substance Abuse and Mental Health Association (SAMHSA), Dept of Health and Human Services, Advisory, Spring 2012 (p. 7).

    2) Rana & Ross, 2010 Incidence of post-collection synthesis and hydrolysis of ethyl glucuronide (EtG) and ethyl sulfate (EtS) in random unpreserved urine specimens.
  • Jul 18, 2012, 07:42 PM
    bandro80
    So based on just the drink on Friday and the test on Monday not figuring any other outside agents what would you say my chances of passing the test on
  • Jul 18, 2012, 07:47 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    so based on just the drink on friday and the test on monday not figuring any other outside agents what would you say my chances of passing the test on

    99.6%
  • Jul 18, 2012, 07:50 PM
    bandro80
    OK thank you I was hoping you could explain the breakdown a little to me I see where you do that often to questions like the hours based on the drinks ratio? If you are busy or don't want to that is fine too.. I really appreciate the help
  • Jul 18, 2012, 08:05 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    ok thank you i was hoping you could explain the breakdown a little to me i see where you do that often to questions like the hours based on the drinks ratio? if you are busy or dont want to that is fine too.. i really appreciate the help

    2 drinks at 60+ hours requires no calculation. Makes no difference if you are M or F, tall or short, 90 lbs or 400, or if you drank it fast or slow. The alcohol was gone within 4 hours and EtG excreted within about 36.

    A good study to review is Wojcik & Hawthorne which dealt with consumption in that range.
  • Jul 18, 2012, 08:20 PM
    bandro80
    Thanks I really appreciate the help last question is I take creatine as I lift weights a lot, does creatine help or hinder the process ? I will leave you alone
  • Jul 18, 2012, 08:32 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    thanks i really appreciate the help last question is i take creatine as i lift weights alot, does creatine help or hinder the process ? i will leave you alone

    Creatinine is the waste product of creatine and causes your urine to be more concentrated which in turn artificially increases the amount of EtG present. In your case there would be none present from the 2 drinks.

    In the future, as I recommend to everyone subjected to EtG tests, drink plenty of water during the day prior to and day of the test up until about 3 hours prior to test. That will go a long way toward preventing a false positive from incidental exposure and will not come close to diluting the sample. Just stay well hydrated.
  • Jul 18, 2012, 08:34 PM
    bandro80
    Thank you dr
  • Jul 19, 2012, 07:35 PM
    bandro80
    Thanks dr bill for the info I passed the test :)
  • Jul 19, 2012, 07:51 PM
    DrBill100
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    Originally Posted by bandro80 View Post
    thanks dr bill for the info i passed the test :)

    Thanks for reporting your results.

    If you get a chance would you provide your gender, age, height and weight. It wasn't necessary for your calculation but I keep track for future reference
  • Jul 20, 2012, 10:36 AM
    bandro80
    Male 32 year old six foot tall, 165 lbs.

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