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I went off birthcontrol in feb. And didn't have a period until may 19. And now I'm 15 days late. I have been having lower cramps lately and my boobs feel bigger and every time I eat I feel sick! I don't know if it is all in my head! I took like 5 tests all NEG. I have been trying to hold of testing for a liitle bit. Could I be pregnant?
Are you wanting to get pregnant? I'm thinking you must be since you got off birth control. I'd wait awhile before testing again or see your doctor.Quote:
Originally Posted by kgooder08
If your 15 days late and you have had a negative tests it's very unlikely you're pregnant :( it might just be your hormones trying to regulate themselves after stopping because. If you miss another period you should probably go to your GYN just to make sure everything is okay. Good luck!
Actually, 15 days late is often too early to get a reliable result on a pregnancy test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobley119
Many women don't get an accurate result until they're in their second or third month.
Yes, it could be because of the pill, and the fact that the OP just got off the pill. But, it is not unlikely that she's pregnant. It's very possible. It just may be too soon to test, or she's testing incorrectly. A false negative is very common.
I would wait until the next period is due. If that period is missed, test again, use first morning urine and follow the directions exactly. If that test is negative, go to the doctor for a more accurate blood test.
Actually if it takes that long for a positive to show, then you aren't making the correct amount of hcp hormone. You should make enough of it for a positive to show within 2 weeks of a missed period. Anyone I've known whose levels were that low at that point had to be supplemented.
Again, I don't agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobley119
At 15 days late many women don't get a positive result, even when pregnant. There are many reasons for this, sometimes the dates are off, it's too early to test, it's a faulty test, the test isn't being used properly, etc. etc.
There are women that never get a positive result using an HPT even through their entire pregnancy. Many women do not get an accurate result until they miss 2 periods, sometimes more.
I would like to see the basis for your posts, where you got your information from. Can you link to a reputable article that backs up what you've posted?
As a registered nurse I have to disagree with you. Firstly, the hormone is called HCG, not hcp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobley119
Supplemented with what?
On a more personal note, with all 4 of my pregnancies I never tested positive until at least 12 weeks gestation, and one of those didn't even result positive until 20 weeks, and at that time it only registered positive with a quantitative blood test.
The hcp was an auto correct. I'm very aware that it's called the human chorionic gonadotropin hormone. And what I meant by supplement was the progesterone suppositories. You'll have to forgive me the only reason why I'm awake is because I had to give my daughter a breathing treatment so I'm not thinking clearly. I was pregnant with twins and one wasn't growing as fast as the other and my hcg was low so they gave me the progesterone hoping it'd raise it but it didn't work and I ended up losing one of the babies. The information I got was from my hormone doctor who was a OBGYN for 40+ years. I saw him when I was pregnant and when we were talking about the treatment I got our conversation turned to that. I guess he was wrong?
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Originally Posted by Mobley119
What spell checker do you use? WP and AMHD didn't make that change for me.
At any rate we at AMHD take pride in our answers on the technical board which are just that, technical. That includes the legal and medical boards.
Posting when you're not thinking clearly doesn't really help anyone.
The problem I see here is that J9 is an RN, working in labor and delivery, first hand advice. Your information is second hand.
I can't speak too much about the medical boards BUT I see postings all the time on the legal boards where the information is incorrect because someone told someone - meanwhile, I'm working with the same situation and my information is first hand.
Ok well I wasn't aware of that. I thought I received my information from a highly informed source so I apologize. And I'm on my iPhone which turns all my so into do and autocorrects words to things I've previously spelt wrong... I have no idea why on earth it put hcp, I don't even know when I could have typoed that :/
Here's the issue I have. This isn't the only thread where you've posted inaccurate information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobley119
The information that's posted on this forum has to be accurate. The people coming here are looking for real answers, not just guesses. Having a child doesn't make you an expert on pregnancy, and sadly, based on one of your other posts, it also doesn't make you an expert on child discipline. That post where you suggested that the OP put her child in a high chair for a time out, was the worst advice I've read in a long time.
We welcome everyone on this site, but if you're going to post in forums where the advice isn't opinion based, but fact based, you have to know your facts.
My suggestion would be that you stick to forums where you have information, or forums where only opinion is needed. Right now you are under the radar, as many of us have noticed that your advice on the pregnancy forums and child forums is not good advice. So show us that you have something to offer this site.
Well I'm sorry you thought my advice was so awful. It could be said that the advice of putting them in time out is equally as awful, seeing as a 16 month old is just starting to learn cause and effect and would not understand why you keep walking them to the stairs to sit, or wherever the time out will be. To put them in a high chair removes them from the situation where they have time to cool down. If you are having to walk them back and forth for 2 minutes, they don't learn what the point is at all. By the time they learn, they'll already be 2, which is the youngest age professionals say time out can even be effective. In the high chair they are in the same spot long enough to realize they are in the same spot, so eventually they get the meaning of the exercise. Eventually when they get older yes obviously you wouldn't put them in a high chair where they can't move, you want them to know to stay there themselves since that is their punishment. But a 16 month old? Do you honestly think that a 16 month old has enough self discipline for that? If you do think so, then you must have been around amazingly different children then I have.
Parenting isn't a fact based thing. Yes obviously there are things that are facts and not, but when it comes to discipline there is a lot of trial and error. I've nannied 2 year old twins, taken child development and child psychology classes in college, have a child of my own, and have many friends who have multiple children of many ages. Also, our neighbor who watches our daughter "teaches" at a 9-18 month educational children's center and has given me amazingly effective advice. This is where my knowledge of parenting comes from. My knowledge of pregnancy comes from having an extensive amount problems during my pregnancy and miscarriage, which made me research and read as much as I could to educate myself. I also have an aunt who I am close with that was a labor and delivery nurse for 37 years. I am sorry that on that one post I was incorrect, however I had what I thought was an extraordinarily good source. Since then I have double checked my information.
If you do not want me on this site then I have absolutely no desire to be here, however I hope that if you choose to analyze every post of mine, you do the same for others since I have read some shocking posts that talked about spanking and hitting your children and there was maybe one post on them that criticized them.
I'm not going to get into a discussion about child rearing on this thread. I'd be more than happy to do so on the thread where you advised the OP to put her child in a highchair for a time out. I know I brought up that post, but we should not continue discussing it on this thread.
I'm going to tell you how I started on this site, which I also shouldn't be doing on this thread. It's not a discussion thread, and we're hijacking it, so I'll post this post, and then, if you want further discussion, you can PM me, or start a thread in the discussion forum and we can discuss it further.
When I started on this site I thought I could answer the pregnancy questions because I have two kids, I've been pregnant 3 times, and I didn't see why I couldn't answer "Could I be pregnant" questions.
Well, I'm one of the rare people that test positive days after I miss a period. I have since learned, from our OB nurse J_9 that I'm not the norm. Most women don't get an accurate result until weeks, sometimes months, into their pregnancy.
I also answered a medical question early on, became distracted, and wrote down the wrong term. I knew what the OP was talking about, but wrote the wrong thing. I was called on it, again by J_9. The difference between you and me was that I admitted my mistake, apologized for it, and moved on. Now, 4 years later, J_9 is a good friend of mine, and even though she may not know it, she's taught me a lot.
I now answer the pregnancy questions because of what I've learned, all from this site. Instead of saying "screw this, I don't need to be told that I'm wrong", I read, learned, and realized that I didn't know nearly as much as I thought I did. Now I know that I am more than capable of answering these questions, because of what I learned from the people on this site, and by doing research.
No one is saying that you're not welcome here. I have read some posts of yours that offer great advice. But, much of the advice you've given on the pregnancy forums, and that one post on the child forum, were not accurate, and could be harmful.
You write well, you're obviously intelligent, so learn from this. Instead of thinking you know everything, and refusing to admit you're wrong, learn from those that know what they're talking about, not only because of education and experience, but because they're willing to listen to those that know more.
As for the other posts you mentioned, if you find a post that's dangerous advice, or harmful, then report it. The only reason I didn't report you was that I had hoped that by correcting you, you'd learn, and continue.
We don't see every question that's posted here. The mods cannot be everywhere, and we all volunteer here. So, it's up to those of us that see the posts to report those that aren't accurate, or don't fall within the rules of this site.
I hope you stick around, I hope you can take this as a learning experience and grow because of it, like I did.
Please skip the passive/aggressive stance.
Also - please post the threads where people spanked and hit their children and went unquestioned and how this relates to time out in a highchair. I think those are two different issues (or possibly three) and don't see how they're related, but I'm willing to learn.
And I've addressed the "my aunt told me and I told you" research with you before.
Yes, I honestly think that strapping a child into a high chair as discipline, as "time out" is dangerous and foolish.
That's the only way you know where your child is? You've never heard of taking the child by the hand, back to time out, wherever that is?
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Originally Posted by Alty
We've all done it - I've owned dogs. I'm a dog expert - right up until a real dog expert came along and didn't care much about what MY dogs do/did - but knew what other dogs do/did.
And so, bleeding from various wounds, I learned.
(Out of greenies so here's some applause.)
Alty I appreciate your response. It's not my intention to high jack the thread, and I'm sorry OP if I took away from any helpful responses you could have received.
I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure on which subject you thought I didn't admit I was wrong. I do know one here I didn't, and I still don't, where I pointed out that usually pcp don't draw blood and test in office. That comes from having been to 14 pcp, gmp
Sorry my stupid IPhone. Pcp who all didn't in ca, nc, sc and ga. I even asked one why they didn't and they told me that they don't do that, that it's easier in them to order them. I don't think I know everything, nor have I ever given that impression. I do know certain facts, facts any OB or nurse would know. Actually, I know things some don't since I had to change OBs twice since the first gave me advice that would have most likely made me miscarry and the other didn't feel like educating himself on my situation so I had to do it myself.
I absolutely understand the mods can't be everywhere, I just find it a bit unfair that I'm being called out and others aren't. And you said that some of my advice on this board was harmful. I would like to know what it was. I would also like to know how putting a child in a high chair is harmful, put I will pm
... You that question. I will take advice of people more knowledgeable then myself, but like I posted earlier, I've received beyond harmful advice from people who were supposed to be knowledgeable. And apparently I've received incorrect knowledge as well, hence the time frame of getting a positive hpt information I received from the former OB of many years I spoke to.
Judy I don't know why you think I'm being passive aggressive, you'll have to pout that out to me. I will link the post when I was talking about tonight I you want, I have to hurry this up since my husband has to go to work and can't watch my daughter anymore which is why I was able to respond. I haven't relayed any information I received from my aunt on this site. And before you criticize what I say, perhaps you should read what I said fully since your response has no relation to mine. Either I've already responded to it or you commented on something I didn't even say.
Sorry for typos and multiple posts, I'm in a hurry and my phone is being especially dumb today.
[QUOTE=Mobley119;3183503Judy i don't know why you think I'm being passive aggressive, you'll have to pout that out to me. I will link the post when I was talking about tonight I you want, I have to hurry this up since my husband has to go to work and can't watch my daughter anymore which is why I was able to respond. I haven't relayed any information I received from my aunt on this site. And before you criticize what I say, perhaps you should read what I said fully since your response has no relation to mine. Either I've already responded to it or you commented on something I didnt even say.[/QUOTE]
Sure, let me point passive/aggressive out to you - “If you do not want me on this site then I have absolutely no desire to be here” The answer is you're presumably an adult. It's your choice.
And more passive/aggressive - “The information I got was from my hormone doctor who was a OBGYN for 40+ years. I saw him when I was pregnant and when we were talking about the treatment I got our conversation turned to that. I guess he was wrong?” The answer, it appears he was wrong.
And more - “If you do think so, then you must have been around amazingly different children then I have.” Not "my experience is different from yours." Instead - confrontational and, again, P/A.
If you don't understand passive/aggressive open another thread and someone will explain it.
As far as any information you've received from your aunt I have no idea why you posted this: “I also have an aunt who I am close with that was a labor and delivery nurse for 37 years” - unless it was in the context of the thread. My cousin teaches Nursing. I saw no reason to mention it. Subject just came up yesterday - my stepdaughter is a Massage Therapist. I didn't mention that here because I didn't see the relevance - same with your reference to your aunt, which I thought was to back up your post.
And then there's excuse after excuse: “The hcp was an auto correct. ... Youll have to forgive me the only reason why I'm awake is because I had to give my daughter a breathing treatment so I'm not thinking clearly.” I was on AMHD to keep my mind occupied when my husband was dying - I didn't use it as an excuse for bad advice OR misinformation. Other people who are regulars have trauma and upset and responsibilities and don't use them as excuses. You aren't the only one "here" who has other fish to fry.
“And I'm on my iPhone which turns all my so into do and autocorrects words to things I've previously spelt wrong... I have no idea why on earth it put hcp, I don't even know when I could have typoed that “
“Sorry my stupid IPhone.”
“Sorry for typos and multiple posts, I'm in a hurry and my phone is being especially dumb today.”
As far as this I thought Alty was pretty clear - “I would like to know what it was. I would also like to know how putting a child in a high chair is harmful ...” it's been explained to you that this punishment could be counterproductive with the reasons clearly stated. I understood what people - including you - were saying. If you didn't why don't you post the confusing part and I'll explain it to you. (See, that's P/A). So keep doing it but stop defending your answer. NONE of this is helping the OP. None of it! I thought Alty was prtty clear on that, also.
And as far as this - "I haven't relayed any information I received from my aunt on this site. And before you criticize what I say, perhaps you should read what I said fully since your response has no relation to mine. Either I've already responded to it or you commented on something I didnt even say.” I think I've covered it.
This is going nowhere and I am asking a Mod to close it. If you want to continue the discussion which is turning onto an argument, do so on a discussion thread.
I'd appreciate it if you would either use a computer or have your iPhone serviced (that's an example of passive/aggressive).
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