I am working on a American Standard one piece toilet. I am replacing the flapper and it seems that no matter what I do it keeps closing too early resulting in an incomplete flush. The flapper is an American Standard 047107-0070A. I have tried adjusting the chain but it still doesn't work. Well actually sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Maybe the water lever needs to be changed?
Help!
Thanks for your help
John

The water level is marked on the inside of tank on the area that is closest to the wall. When set at this height your full tank should be about 1/2'' below the overflow tube.

The water tube on the flapper set up should be in a vertical position when you start the flush. Adjust the chain to get it so.

Chuck

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Originally Posted by creahands

The water level is marked on the inside of tank on the area that is closest to the wall. When set at this height ur full tank should be about 1/2'' below the overflow tube.

The water tube on the flapper set up should be in a vertical position when u start the flush. Adjust the chain to get it so.

Chuck

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Thanks for the feedback. I did finally saw the markings for the fill line on the inside rear of the tank like you said. The flapper does come up to a vertical position. This is really annoying me
Thanks again

With the flapper seated there should be about 1/4" of play in the chain. Good luck, Tom

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Originally Posted by speedball1

With the flapper seated there should be about 1/4" of play in the chain. Good luck, Tom

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Thanks tom, I tried all different lengths of slack. I've seen people who have made this change have it work for them. I think my flapper doesn't like me. I'll give it another go.
Thanks again
John

Hi John

If you are still having the issue then I would suggest that you take a couple minutes and drain the toilet tank so you can examine the ACTUATOR VALVE (the thing the flapper attaches too).

It sounds like your actuator valve may be cracked which would allow water to flow out too quickly and the actuator to drop too fast.

Otherwise, you could actually have purchased the wrong flapper... they have like 3 or 4 kind that fit this actuator valve. Here, go purchase another, thinner flapper (they make a thick one... could be you have that).

Finally, if all this doesn't solve your issue then you can try taping a quarter to the back end of the actauator valve and see if that helps keep the valve up longer (it should). If this works, you can use liquid epoxy to adhere the quarter permanently, OK?

Check it out and let us know what you find... I'm thinkin' cracked valve or wrong flapper disk!

Good luck!

Mark

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Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi John

If you are still having the issue then I would suggest that you take a couple minutes and drain the toilet tank so you can examine the ACTUATOR VALVE (the thing the flapper attaches too).

It sounds like your actuator valve may be cracked which would allow water to flow out too quickly and the actuator to drop too fast.

Otherwise, you could actually have purchased the wrong flapper....they have like 3 or 4 kind that fit this actuator valve. Here, go purchase another, thinner flapper (they make a thick one...could be you have that).

Finally, if all this doesn't solve your issue then you can try taping a quarter to the back end of the actauator valve and see if that helps keep the valve up longer (it should). If this works, you can use liquid epoxy to adhere the quarter permenantly, OK?

Check it out and let us know what you find.....I'm thinkin' cracked valve or wrong flapper disk!

Good luck!

Mark

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Sounds like a plan, thanks I'll get to you. The quarter thing sounds good, sort of like putting pennies on the needle for a phonograph :)

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Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi John

If you are still having the issue then I would suggest that you take a couple minutes and drain the toilet tank so you can examine the ACTUATOR VALVE (the thing the flapper attaches too).

It sounds like your actuator valve may be cracked which would allow water to flow out too quickly and the actuator to drop too fast.

Otherwise, you could actually have purchased the wrong flapper....they have like 3 or 4 kind that fit this actuator valve. Here, go purchase another, thinner flapper (they make a thick one...could be you have that).

Finally, if all this doesn't solve your issue then you can try taping a quarter to the back end of the actauator valve and see if that helps keep the valve up longer (it should). If this works, you can use liquid epoxy to adhere the quarter permenantly, OK?

Check it out and let us know what you find.....I'm thinkin' cracked valve or wrong flapper disk!

Good luck!

Mark

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Damn! Amazing what a quarter can do! Now I'll have to see if I can this quarter to adhere to actuator. I never have luck with stuff like monster glue.

BIG THANKS!!

Any liquid epoxy that sticks to plastic should do it... just be sure to rough the surface of the actuator up with a file of sandcloth and the quarter should stay on just fine!

Good day!