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  • Jul 3, 2012, 10:28 AM
    kaybee75
    Can my boss have a 3rd party sign a refusal to hire?
    My boss has put a division of our company up for sale. He made sure to contact all companies in our industry in a 50 mile radius. He made them sign a confidentiality agreement (understandable) but a clause in this agreement states that none of those companies can hire any of our company employees for a 3 year period. Basically it has eliminated me from getting a job elsewhere in my industry for 3 years. The employees were not informed of this. I only found out inadvertently. Can he do that?
  • Jul 3, 2012, 10:31 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kaybee75 View Post
    My boss has put a division of our company up for sale. He made sure to contact all companies in our industry in a 50 mile radius. He made them sign a confidentiality agreement (understandable) but a clause in this agreement states that none of those companies can hire any of our company employees for a 3 year period. Basically it has eliminated me from getting a job elsewhere in my industry for 3 years. The employees were not informed of this. I only found out inadvertently. Can he do that??

    They put these in all the time... they however can rarely be legally enforced in most cases. Particualrly if they terminate you for any reason...

    They might be able to enforce the confidentiality part if they can prove anything... but courts have ruled you can work anyplace that will hire you.

    I've moved back and forth between employers and competitors over the last 30 years without ever a problem.
  • Jul 9, 2012, 05:06 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kaybee75 View Post
    Can he do that??

    Hello kay:

    He can, but I don't know why he would.. It makes no sense whatsoever. If I were a prospect, I'd NEVER agree to those terms. It benefits NOBODY and only hurts the employees... I think you misunderstand the agreement..

    excon
  • Jul 10, 2012, 09:44 AM
    JudyKayTee
    These clauses are no longer enforceable in NY.
  • Jul 10, 2012, 10:11 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    These clauses are no longer enforceable in NY.

    Hello Judy:

    This isn't a non-compete agreement the employees sign. It's part of a sales agreement. I have NO idea why the seller would prohibit the buyer from hiring a trained workforce, and I have NO idea WHY a buyer would agree to tie his hands like that.

    I see NO benefit for ANYBODY in this agreement. That's why I question whether it truly IS part of the sale.

    excon
  • Jul 10, 2012, 10:29 AM
    ScottGem
    I'm a little confused. So the owner of the company is putting up a division for sale. I can understand why he might tell other firms in the industry to see if they were interested in buying the division. But I can even understand why he would try to get competitors to agree not hire the staff.

    What I don't understand is why ANY company would sign such an agreement. I might be able to understand if the restriction was from hiring EXISTING employees. But once an employee leaves the company there is no way to enforce this.

    So the OP isn't prevented from being employed, but just from switching jobs while currently employed. But even that is not allowed under the 14th amendment.
  • Jul 10, 2012, 10:38 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Informally it is done all the time, formally yes they can do it, it may or may not be able to be enforced
  • Jul 10, 2012, 11:00 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Judy:

    This isn't a non-compete agreement the employees sign. It's part of a sales agreement. I have NO idea why the seller would prohibit the buyer from hiring a trained workforce, and I have NO idea WHY a buyer would agree to tie his hands like that.

    I see NO benefit for ANYBODY in this agreement. That's why I question whether it truly IS part of the sale.

    excon


    I still think it's a non-compete, perhaps unusual, but the current employer is attempting to bind the current employees to a non-compete contract. Cannot be enforced in NY - of course, OP isn't in NY but...

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