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  • Feb 23, 2007, 05:51 PM
    evanado
    Is my girlfriend ill? Or losing interest?
    So this probably seems very much like a lot of the other concerns people have posted so before I start, I would like to express my appreciation to anyone who takes the time to read and respond to this. I am a member on other forums pertaining to my hobbies (totally unrelated to this) and have already been cited as an incredibly long-winded typer. So, my apologies before hand. I try to cut it short, but I just can't seem to do it. (maybe I should start another thread for this?)

    I have read a great deal of information, including other members questions, but I just don't feel like Im getting anything I can apply to my life out of this. Im not sure if my concern is more or less complex than anyone else's but I am certain that it has become a big enough problem for me to lose sleep over, question my position in life as well as my relationship, as well as major loss of motivation for my work or my hobbies. (nearly the same category, Im a horticulturist.)

    Here's the scenario. Grab a drink and a pop tart or something. I'll try to be concise but ill probably still just say everything I want to and just pray that someone takes the time to read it. (just like every other thread I've ever posted) ::::

    I've been going out with this girl for a year now, and I just love her more than life. Each of us has had several other relationships, or partners. Aside from a couple of issues including this one, our relationship has been flawless. We seem to be exactly what each other needs. I felt like telling her that I loved her the very first night we ever hung out. (on which we had sex several times, which was behavior FAR from normal for either of us.) She tells me she felt the same, and it has been deep and intense love ever since that night. We still spend many nights lying awake just talking about how we feel about each other. Up until the last few months, things have been great.

    Like I said before, I've had other lasting relationships, that ended in accordance with the logical state of our lives. Never before have I seen something quite like this though. I've tried approaching it from several angles, and the more information I get the more baffled I become. We really only have sex maybe a few times in a month. At first, I felt hurt. I felt as thought the fire we had was beginning to flicker. But now based on more current information, I'm just utterly confused. She doesn't have a drinking issue, but she does go out dancing with her friends and does get "tipsy" about every Friday. I feel that to truly understand how I am feeling you should understand some other information.

    I trust her with my heart, like I trust myself with hers. I could never hurt her. However I have security issues Im not really going to discuss in this thread around the friends she goes out with. I will say though that my paranoia seemed to have actually manifested itself when she got an anonymous letter in the mail, accusing me of cheating on her with my ex-girlfriend. Not only that, but it also made some other pretty vicious and unfounded accusations at me as a person. They did however hit the nail right on the head when they said I was insecure. But its like, of COARSE I'm insecure! I was right! Wasn't I?

    Of coarse the whole thing seems really childish and silly. Which is exactly how we responded. At first I was hurt, especially because it was obviously from someone I was trying to befriend, and someone close to her, but after a night of reflection we thought it to be rather silly. I didn't even need to explain myself to her. She knows me. We posted it on myspace in a blog, for all to point and laugh at. (if you're wondering at this point, I'm 25, she's 24. Still both in college :(..

    If your asking "what the hell does this have to do with anything" Im getting there. See, we both took it as a joke. We made a public joke out of it, but nothing has really changed. We're still hanging out with the same people. I've even begin to come out of my shell and go out with them. As though the whole thing has been forgiven, and I, given an unspoken apology? Anyway, I find myself thinking about it more and more. I wish I had answers. I wish I knew who it was. I wish I knew what she really thought about it. Did she believe any of it? Of coarse she knows I am insecure, its an issue we've always discussed, and have tried, successfully to a great extent, to work on) Okay, enough info, the point:

    ever since then, her sex drive seems to be dwindling. My sex drive, as usual, is out of control. I come onto her, but don't pressure her. I've leaned that if she doesn't feel like it not to pressure. We've already had that argument when this all began. At first, I chose to confront her with the conversation, "Is it me? Are you losing interest?" That seemed to trigger a great deal of anger. To sum it up, "no, its just me. Its my body" was the answer.
    And to some extent has made a lot of sense. But then, the timing with the letter thing. I don't know. She's been so distant lately. She seems to get annoyed. Like I'm in her way. All I want is to hold her and cuddle and talk. I start to feel "clingy" and annoying. Needless to say, sex is out of the question, and any attempt at the idea is quickly met with harsh rejection.

    I do my best to not let it bother me, but in all honesty, I get a little quiet and sad upon getting out of bed after a night like this. Total confusion, and I can tell she can tell. I try to give her space and run five or six miles. I masturbate. "Kill the testosterone" I tell myself. I wish I could work right now, but weather just doesn't permit. I think she wants more space, but when I try to talk to her about that she meets me with "don't. thats not true. I love having you around."

    She still constantly tells me that she loves me. She told me just the other night that she wants to spend her life with me. That she wants to have children with me. I told her I felt the same. Im mad about her. I would do anything for her. (even post my most sensitive thoughts on the internet in a desperate attempt to help our relationship)

    There were a couple of painful times having sex for her. Not during, but after she had climaxed, she was telling me that there was a very sharp pain in her left ovary. "its like the tube is pulled tight like a guitar string" she said. Of coarse I freaked out. I wanted to rush her to the hospital. I tried to convince her to see a doctor or a gynecologist. We can't afford insurance, nonetheless a visit to a clinic and she is very afraid of debt. She can be so stubborn. There was nothing I could do. I have a lot of bad dreams about this still though its only happened twice a few months ago. Since then it seems like, when she wants to have sex, we have great sex. It seems like maybe the whole problem has blown over? I tried researching it myself, but found nothing useful. When I ask about it I get "sometimes a woman's body is a strange thing." Great. That's not real reassuring.

    Other times she tells me that she wants to do it, but can't get wet. I tell her I can get her wet orally, but she doesn't want that. Its as though her system is simply "turned off". Literally. Then, when she's "on" I notice that her secretion is a lot thicker than usual and white. I do her laundry for her when she is either at work or school, and notice sometimes that her panties are soaked with it. How could that be? Did she get aroused somewhere else? At school? At work? How did that happen? Why doesn't it ever happen when we want it to? It scares the crap out of me either way I look at it. Its almost like I would rather believe that she is losing interest in me, than to think that she could have a life-threatening illness and leave my life forever. Either way you look at it, I will be crushed under the weight of circumstance.

    I consider myself to be very experienced sexually and she tells me every time that I am amazing. I am very athletic, and without sounding vain or conceded, I will say that I am attractive, as is she. In my mind she is all I ever think about sexually. When I masturbate, I have to think of her to climax. There doesn't seem to be any REAL reason she wouldn't be attracted to me anymore. I am most always very gentle, (unless asked to be otherwise) and sensitive to her wants and needs. I know that she is always blown away by the way I perform, and I her.

    So here are some questions I am asking, if I didn't make myself clear in the presentation, which is very likely considering I am the worst writer on the face of the earth.

    Is she sick? What would cause a change in the thickness of her secretion?
    could alcohol effect this? What about the whole ovary thing? Im a bit of a hypochondiract, but she's a bit of a "sweeper under the rugger".

    How can I get her help if we think it is warranted? How can I conVINCE her that she needs to do it? Is there clinics that will help us financially?

    Is it POSSIBLE, that she is attracted to someone else? Hence the saturated panties, and thus losing interest in me? Could the letter have planted the seed of doubt in her mind, and she is thinking about someone else? Like I said, I trust her so much, this seems impossible, but somehow better than the alternative.

    Could it be a combination of BOTH? Maybe the letter, causing her to question her closest friends, created enough stress in her life to cause abnormalities in her sexual behavior?
    Any thoughts about that letter? Any would be appreciated.

    Is this "kill the testosterone" running/frequent masturbation thing healthy? It honestly helps. I find that I am much happier and talkative after doing this, thus standing a much greater chance of actually having sex. Oops too long. Ill post the rest after
  • Feb 23, 2007, 05:54 PM
    evanado
    I've tried the whole stop coming onto her thing, it worked for about a week before she figured something was wrong and asked me about it. When I told her what I was doing she became angry at me for it, and told me that she wANTS me coming onto her. So, how do I go about doing this? How often should I be trying? I know I can't rely on my own penis for the answer to that one. Should we even be HAVING sex without knowing if there's something physically wrong with her?


    How should I be taking this? I don't know how to behave sometimes. Sometimes it feels dishonest to tell her "no" when asked if something is wrong, but if I bring it up she gets so upset and frustrated. Like Im supposed to know the answer already. Like its just the difference in our bodies, and I should just keep killing testosterone levels and not bother her with it anymore, because it only seems to undermine our relationship in regards to trust anyway. .

    I find myself getting frustrated and I just can't stand the thought of losing her. I obviously have run out of ideas. Im worried about her health. Im worried about mine. And in all honesty, Im sexually frustrated. The thought of her naked makes my heart race. Even after I masturbate, I feel the same. I just wish she would feel the same about me again.
    I feel very anxious and scared. I am scared of every single possible scenario. None of it seems good. Please help if you want...


    Thank you so much for you time and patience. :o
  • Feb 27, 2007, 03:52 PM
    RickJ
    Evando, the more you type the less likely it is that someone will read it all and respond meaningfully.

    Can you summarize the problem into one sentence and your question into another?

    I'm really not trying to be rude or disprespectful... but we have some awesome people here who give great advice... I'd like to see you get some (good advice, that is :) )
  • Mar 17, 2007, 09:28 AM
    Spawnofktulu07
    Hey, I read your article after doing a Google search on a similar problem I am having with my relationship. Though I am a few years younger than you I guess it wouldn't hurt just to give my opinion. My girlfriend and I are doing all right but I share the same problem of paranoia and insecurity with you.

    I'm not really sure what I can tell you about her physically, It wouldn't hurt to have her checked out I suppose.

    About the random bursts of arousal I don't think it has anything to do with her liking or being attracted to someone else, it seems that if she loves you as much as she says she does then why would she put all the effort into reassuring you. With us both being guys I'm sure you can understand when we randomly or used to get random rises in hormone levels and for no reason get an erection. It's probably the same thing with her, her estrogen levels rise for no given reason and she probably just has some discharge.

    Even though this may seem a little personal it might help, she isn't exactly OK physically or emotionally. Has she had a peroid? Random I know but she might possibly be pregnant and afraid to tell you. I don't know, just an idea.

    It sounds more like an illness than losing interest to be honest with you.

    As for the prank letter, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Woman may be mysterious but they don't take things like that seriously unless they, themselves are insecure, besides as I said the amount she cares about you, she wouldn't care what some unknown person says, she would trust you over that person, even if it did linger in her mind she would be OK because she trusts you.

    I'm not sure if I helped but I gave you my opinion

    Good Luck
    =)
  • Mar 31, 2007, 02:46 PM
    michellemaria1968
    A woman's opinion.

    I do not think your girlfriend is ill - or pregnant.

    As for the discharge, this happens to every woman once a month between days 10 and 20 approximately. (more so from days 10-14) It means she is ovulating and healthy. You said the discharge was white - a very good sign.

    If your girlfriend mentioned pain during or after intercourse, then perhaps she now associates the discomfort with sexual intercourse. This can be consciously or subconciously. I would use a lubricante for the dryness. This helps a woman tremendously. Then they can enjoy it.

    I suggest you talk about how many times you want intercouse per week. Perhaps she says once, you say every day, and work out a happy medium of say twice or three times. It is not bad to tell your girlfriend you masturbate in between, it is healthy for you both!

    As your girlfriend spends more time with you, she feels more secure, so doesn't need to have sex as much. That is a compliment to you as she loves you dearly. Not very satisfactoy for men I know, but women don't need sex like men do.

    I think it would be nice if you prepared a nice warm bath one day, buy some massage oil, some scented candles and tell her outright that you are preparing something special. Some men seem to forget that women like to be pampered before hand not just "Let's go for it"!

    Oh and do cuddle her and hug her, but don't always finish the hug with sexual intercourse. Leave her wanting more...

    Hope to have helped, Michelle.
  • Mar 31, 2007, 08:15 PM
    Pheobelike
    I agree with Michelle.

    She's right about the discharge around the time woman ovulate, and everything else she said. Having experienced dryness I can tell you that lubricate works very well and can help the situation along.

    It's also worth mentioning the foreplay doesn't start in the bedroom for a women. It starts by the way you communicate. If you're feeling insecure and doubting what's between you then that's not going to make her feel desirable. The most important thing you and your girlfriend need to do is Talk. Make time, go away for the weekend if necessary, and have a good, long heart to heart. Tell her how you feel, listen to how she feels, work this through togeather.

    Best of luck,
    Pheobelike.
  • Apr 1, 2007, 09:44 AM
    PinkSlippers
    My advice to you would be to just relax... seriously. I agree with the others- discharge like that is completely normal. Some people experience a pain on one side when they're ovulating (that's straight from my doctor). There's no evidence to suggest she's losing interest. After the "honeymoon" period is over (that's not as bad as it sounds) people start to settle in with each other, they're more comfortable, and YES that often means the woman isn't so hung up with making sure you have sex every minute of every day - that's because she loves you, not because she doesn't. Anyway, good luck.
  • May 21, 2007, 06:56 AM
    Nabailey
    I have the same worries about my girlfrind. Almost exactly the same!

    Although when I asked her about it she basically said she could go the rest of her life with out have sex with me! I love her loads, she used to say "i love you" but the last time I heard her say this was in February it now end of may.

    We used to have sex about 8 times a month but now we can go through a whole month without any.

    When I asked her about this she said that "our relationship had past its honeymoon period"

    She doesn't even like me coming in the bathroom whilst she's in the bath anymore.

    She's the only person who makes me happy and I worried that she keeping things from me
  • Aug 6, 2007, 08:11 AM
    outlaw666
    Exactly the same here,I'm starting to wonder if this is just some kind of natural alrm clock,I really can't see solution even with all the advice here,but I believe its all in the mind.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 08:36 AM
    smoothy
    I can see this relationship is still in its "Lust" stage... perhaps she is coming out of that period and he is still in it.

    As far as sex falling off because the "Honeymoon period" is over all I can say is bah!

    I've been married 16 years and rarely a day goes by when we don't get it on. Are we going at it 4 - 5 times a day? No but then we never did.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 01:24 PM
    jmosesee
    My girlfriend stopped having sex with me, and then a while after that, she dumped me. Now I am with a woman who wants a lot of sex. There are other problems in our relationship, but no trouble with libido!
  • Sep 29, 2009, 11:32 AM
    jrmason

    Man if I didn't know any better I could swear your story sounds like I wrote it. Except me and my girlfriend have been dating for two and a half years and it hasn't been the same for like a year and a half or two. I have the same insecurities you talk about. The thing that bothers me is that it hasn't always been this way and I want things to go back to the way they used to be. Two or three times a month simply does not suffice for most guys. We are both in college and I am tiered of the lack of intimacy. When we do it its like she doesn't even care, she just lays there. She gets mad when I bring it up... pretty much your story. I have a feeling it is the birth control. I have looked it up and some women's lebido has been completely wiped out by birth control. So I am going to try to talk her into getting off it or finding some se drive enhancement pill.

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