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  • May 3, 2012, 07:07 AM
    excon
    Guns, Tampa, Summertime, Republican convention, OWS, Stand Your Ground... Good mix?
    Hello:

    Governor DENIES Tampa mayor's request for gun ban during the Republican convention.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    excon
  • May 3, 2012, 08:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    What could go wrong? Some of those occupiers might have found their AKs by then.
  • May 3, 2012, 08:16 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What could go wrong? Some of those occupiers might have found their AKs by then.

    Hello Steve:

    If YOU were going to Tampa to pursue your Constitutional rights, and you KNOW how much the right wing HATES you, and you KNOW they'll be ARMED, wouldn't you go with your weapons??

    I know you asked tongue in cheek, but I think Tampa could be a war zone.

    Let me ask you this. Let's say YOU were a delegate. Let's say you KNOW the streets of Tampa aren't going to be friendly to a person such as yourself. Knowing that, you'd TAKE your gun, wouldn't you?

    excon
  • May 3, 2012, 08:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Why yes, I would defend myself. That's the difference between right-wing zealot gun owners and anarchists, we use them for defense and they use them for evil. You should be thanking us.
  • May 3, 2012, 08:51 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    we use them for defense and they use them for evil. You should be thanking us.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Like Zimmerman did... No thanks.

    excon
  • May 3, 2012, 09:01 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like Zimmerman did... No thanks.

    excon

    Ah, so we're all Zimmermans, eh? I thought we'd declared a truce in the civil war.
  • May 3, 2012, 09:06 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Ah, so we're all Zimmermans, eh? I thought we'd declared a truce in the civil war.

    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you can call yourself the good guys, but I can't point out how it could wrong??

    Nahhh, that ain't the way THIS thread is going to go.

    excon
  • May 3, 2012, 01:48 PM
    speechlesstx
    Lots of things COULD happen, like some 280 lb occupier might smack a 100 lb lady cop over the head with a drum, defecate on a cop car, vandalize everything and some old Republican ladies might wave a flag.

    P.S. If you aren't getting this the point is you libs keep fear mongering about the wrong crowd. Leave to to some Democrat mayor to try and suppress the people's rights because "some people who are coming here with intent on causing mayhem." Those "some people" are not the peace loving Republicans coming to the convention, so leave them be.
  • May 3, 2012, 03:55 PM
    paraclete
    So it's going to be a rootin, shooting convention
  • May 3, 2012, 03:58 PM
    cdad
    From what I understand about the situation. It was about those that have carry permits. Since they are already approved by the state of Florida to carry. It shouldn't be a problem.

    Here is the carry permit law for that state.

    http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7...es/florida.pdf
  • May 4, 2012, 06:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    From what I understand about the situation. It was about those that have carry permits. Since they are already approved by the state of Florida to carry. It shouldnt be a problem.

    Precisely.
  • May 4, 2012, 06:43 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Precisely.

    Hello again,

    Huh? This summer is going to be a shooting gallery and all you can talk about is permits??

    excon
  • May 4, 2012, 06:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    These are law abiding citizens, why a preemptive strike against them when they aren't the troublemakers?
  • May 4, 2012, 07:04 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    These are law abiding citizens, why a preemptive strike against them when they aren't the troublemakers?

    Hello again, Steve:

    They aren't?? We'll see about that now, won't we? You'd be one of those people who called Trayvon a troublemaker, whereas I'd be calling Zimmerman one.

    excon
  • May 4, 2012, 07:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Again, I thought we had called a truce. My words on the Zimmerman affair are easy to find, what you said wasn't it. So please feel free to show me some meaningful stats on evil permit owners and their troublemaking ways.

    I mean you're the guy who for years now warned about giving up some of our rights for a little protection, now you're telling us to give up our rights for a little protection.

    Actually, I just think you're ticked that I'm killin' you guys in baseball again. My pitchers are even gaining on the lead.
  • May 4, 2012, 07:40 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Again, I thought we had called a truce.

    Hello again, Steve:

    A truce works BOTH ways. That means you can't call the other guys "evil" and complain to me when I say something about your guys. I understand that you DON'T understand that. Therefore the truce, that you didn't adhere to anyway, is OFF.

    By the way, you'll have show me where I called for anybody to be disarmed. I didn't. I'm just the canary in the coal mine. Having armed angry right wingers mix with unarmed (maybe) angry OWS'ers is a recipe for disaster...

    I don't know... I'm not bright, but I can SEE the future. You? Not so much.

    excon
  • May 4, 2012, 08:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    A truce works BOTH ways. That means you can't call the other guys "evil" and complain to me when I say something about your guys. I understand that you DON'T understand that. Therefore the truce, that you didn't adhere to anyway, is OFF.

    What? Where? When? I sarcastically called our guys "evil" and said of "anarchists" and guns, "they use them for evil." I must have missed where I have recently called anyone evil in reality.

    Quote:

    By the way, you'll have show me where I called for anybody to be disarmed.
    I thought you were an advocate of putting words in other people's mouths.

    Quote:

    Having armed angry right wingers mix with unarmed (maybe) angry OWS'ers is a recipe for disaster...
    I do see how angry, arrogant occupiers stirring up violence in the presence of permit owners could be a mistake. Never doubted that for a second. So put the resources where they should be and keep those occupiers under control and all will be fine.

    But you really need to get over this notion that right-wingers are out to kill. I just want to be happy, dude. And not have to pay for Julia's entire life of government care. That is of course is Julia ever gets born because no one is around in this regime to protect her right to life.
  • May 4, 2012, 09:14 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    But you really need to get over this notion that right-wingers are out to kill. I just wanna be happy, dude.

    Hello again, Steve:

    The cool thing about canary's in the coal mine, is that they can discern DANGER when NOBODY else can.

    I don't believe that your ordinary armed right winger WANTS to kill. I don't believe George Zimmerman set out to kill that night. But, what I DO know, is that right wingers HATE OWS'ers. I don't mean they oppose them. I mean they HATE them with a vengeance.. I think you MAY be among that group.

    So, as a canary, let me see if I can envision a LIKELY scenario. OWS is going to descend on Tampa like flies on dead meat. There's Going to be trouble in the streets.

    So, let's say there's a couple of ARMED delegates trying to wend there way back to the hotel after having a couple pops. They see somebody sh*ting on a cop car, and for good measure the guy picks up a pile and hits the ARMED and tipsy delegates IN THE FACE...

    Now, the responsible gun owner YOU describe would walk away. Maybe, most would. But, with STAND your GROUND in their back pockets, and a 9 mm in their front, I think there's going to be some DEAD people on the street.

    You? Not so much.

    excon
  • May 4, 2012, 09:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    The cool thing about canary's in the coal mine, is that they can discern DANGER when NOBODY else can.

    I don't believe that your ordinary armed right winger WANTS to kill. I don't believe George Zimmerman set out to kill that night. But, what I DO know, is that right wingers HATE OWS'ers. I don't mean they oppose them. I mean they HATE them with a vengeance.. I think you MAY be among that group

    LOL, you make a lousy canary. Oh, and it would be responsible to walk away, most would. So let's go from canaries and canards to the real problem, the guy sh*tting on the cop car and throwing feces in someone else's face. The assailant is the problem, not the victim, but that's libs bass-ackward thinking for you, always running around with solutions looking for a problem instead of dealing with reality.
  • May 4, 2012, 09:49 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The assailant is the problem, not the victim, but that's libs bass-ackward thinking for you, always running around with solutions looking for a problem instead of dealing with reality.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Now, I'm not sure what a straw man is, but I think you used one. Look here. This is SIMPLE. I don't think ANYBODY should be throwing sh*t around. But, I don't think somebody should be KILLED for doing it.

    Talk about bass-ackwards! Zimmerman played the victim card too.

    excon

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