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  • Apr 16, 2012, 05:45 PM
    Tinkerer Tom
    Modifying 110v Circuit to 220v Circuit Using Steel-Armor of BX Cable as Neutral/Groun
    My house was constructed in 1980 in the City of New York. About twenty-five years ago, I installed a new 29,200 BTU Carrier A/C through the wall of the house. The unit was rated at 208v, drawing 15.1 Amps.

    The house was built with a “standard-sized” A/C sleeve through the wall, serviced by a solid-copper-wire, steel-armored, 12/2-BX cable, with a single-pole 110v, 20-Amp dedicated circuit breaker receptacle next to the sleeve.

    I ripped-out the “standard-sized” sleeve, replacing it with an oversized sleeve designed to house the new A/C. However, as to the original solid-copper-wire, steel-armored, 12/2-BX cabled, 110v, single-pole 20-Amp dedicated circuit breaker receptacle, I replaced it with a new 220v receptacle. Then I ran a second solid-copper-wire, steel-armored, 12/2-BX cable from the steel main-panel box back to the new 220v receptacle (A distance of about 35-feet!), and then I installed a new 20-Amp double-pole dedicated circuit breaker in the steel main-panel box.

    I then “jury-rigged” the two 12/2-BX cables by twisting and capping the two black wires together and running a short “pigtail” to one of the “Hot” 220v receptacle leads, and then twisting and capping the two white wires together and again running another short “pigtail” to the other “Hot” 220v receptacle lead. I then ran another short “pigtail” from “Neutral/Ground” 220v receptacle lead back to the steel receptacle box, thereby converting the steel receptacle box and the steel-armor of the BX cable itself into the “Neutral/Ground” lead.

    At the steel main-panel box, where I installed the 20-Amp double-pole dedicated circuit breaker, I again “jury-rigged” the two black 12/2-BX cables by twisting them together and attaching them to one of the 20-Amp dedicated circuit breaker poles, and I then twisted together the two white 12/2-BX cables and attached them to the other 20-Amp dedicated circuit breaker pole. I then securely affixed the two independent steel-armored 12/2-BX cables to the steel main-panel box, and for “good-measure” ran a “pigtail” from the steel-armor of the BX cables to the “Neutral/Ground” bar of the steel main-panel box.

    Having said all that, I need to say that (1) I was shown this “jury-rigging-maneuver” by an “old-time-electrician” who claimed to have “converted hundreds” of 110v circuits to 220v circuits by the aforementioned “method”, and (2) my oversized 29,200 BTU, 208v, 15.1-Amp A/C worked perfectly fine for the better-part of a quarter-of-a-century!

    Fast-forward twenty-five years and the old 29,200 BTU A/C is dead! However, I found a newer (About ten-years old and in great condition!) Carrier A/C on eBay for a fraction of the cost of a new one, and while the physical dimensions of the newer A/C are identical to the dimensions of the old one, the power requirements of the newer A/C are more “demanding”.

    While this newer unit is rated at the same 208v, it’s putting out 32,200 BTUs, while drawing 19.4-Amps and generating 3,930-Watts! Carrier’s specifications require that this newer A/C be run on a 30-Amp double-pole dedicated circuit breaker, and while it’s simple-enough to replace the 20-Amp dedicated circuit breaker with a new 30-Amp dedicated circuit breaker in the steel main-panel box, I’m concerned about the efficacy/safety of my “jury-rigged” wiring, especially using the converted the steel receptacle box and the steel-armor of the BX cable itself as the “Neutral/Ground” lead.

    From cruising the Internet, it appears that a 12-guage solid-copper wire can safely handle up to a 20.0-Amp load and up to 3,840-Watts at 240v, and that by twisting together a pair of 12-guage solid-copper wires it should produce the functional equivalent of a 9-guage solid-copper wire, which should boost its capacity to somewhere around 35-Amps and about 6,500-Watts at 240v. That said, I’m anxious of the merit of continuing to use the “jury-rigged” steel-armor of the BX cables as the “Neutral/Ground” means to continue to safely handle the power demands this newer replacement A/C.

    Sorry for this “long-winded” depiction, but as my quandary concerns a potential safety-issue versus the time and expense of ripping-out the twin 12/2-BX cables and running a single 10/3 (or possibly even an 8/3) cable, I wanted to be as precise as possible in relating my circumstances.

    Thank you for reading this, and I appreciate whatever assistance/information that you may provide.

    Tinkerer Tom
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  • Apr 16, 2012, 06:33 PM
    stanfortyman
    What you did was not legal, safe, proper, or feasible. NOT SAFE is the important part.
    What ever old timer that showed you how to do what you did was a complete hack and know just enough to be dangerous, worse yet he should you how to be dangerous.


    A single 12/2 that is used for 240v was absolutely fine. This is a typical thing to do.
    You can use the black and white for the two hots of a 240v circuit. No neutral is needed. The white wire just gets colored with a marker to a hot color.

    So in summary, NO, you definitely CANNOT do what you did and want to do. It is not legal, code complaint or safe.

    Have an electrician run the proper #10 wire and be done with it.
    The City of NY has some VERY strict rules about wiring and who can do electrical work. It is highly unlikely that you can legally do any electrical work there. From your post here today it sounds like hiring someone would definitely also be in your best interest.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 02:48 AM
    tkrussell
    Only to concur with Stan, and give you a second opinion, you took the time to run the incorrect cable. I hope the "old-timer" is not doing electrical work any longer.

    At least it occurred to you to ask the question.

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