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  • Mar 29, 2012, 04:53 PM
    tanti
    Ordination is it legal I got it on the on the internet
    Is ordination is it legal here I did it on internet The Church of Spiritual Humanism is who it is through
  • Mar 29, 2012, 04:55 PM
    Alty
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    Is odination is it legal here I did it on internet The Church of Spiritual Humanism is who it is through
    I have to ask. What is odination? Do you mean ordination? Being ordained?

    Anyone can become ordained on the internet . I don't know what legal aspects you're asking about. What are you planning on doing with this online ordination?
  • Mar 29, 2012, 05:15 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Some states will have issues, can they ordain you, yes, But to do something's like marry people, after you are ordained, you will have to actually practice a church. You will have to have meetings on a regular basis in a regular place. It may be you home, a meeting room, or nursing home. I know TN has laws on this, as does Oregon. And I am sure other states.

    So what do you want to do with your ordination.

    Next legal and being accepted by some groups is another issue.
  • Mar 29, 2012, 05:17 PM
    AK lawyer
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    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
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    Anyone can become ordained on the internet . I don't know what legal aspects you're asking about. What are you planning on doing with this online ordination?

    Perhaps taking advantages of the tax benefits of being a minister?

    Or being able to perform marriages?
  • Mar 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Just being a minister does not give you any automatic tax advantages. A person in most states can just form a church, and there is no need to get ordained by any group.
    They will file for a 501c3 letter from the IRS and their state tax department, file and form a corporation in their state as a non profit corporation.
  • Jun 25, 2012, 07:35 PM
    HelloKitty345
    Ordination through the internet may be "legal" in your state, but it isn't ideal.

    Think of it this way: If you go to a doctor, do you want one with an internet license or one who is board certified? I'll go to the board certified physician or surgeon.

    If you send your child to school, do you want your child's teacher to be highly qualified and licensed by a state board of education? Yes, please.

    Similarly, when you go to a pastor, wouldn't it make sense that he or she have studied at a Theological Seminary? That they received their Orders of Ordination from a real religious authority? Isn't your spiritual health (and marriage, if applicable) important enough to put into someone who has put in the time, energy, and effort to become Ordained through the Church? A real church, not something with ".com" in the name.

    Ordination in some demoninations is a labor of love for God's people. In one case, I can say this person began the process and 9 years later was finally Ordained. That's without any deferment or trouble with his process. He is an exemplary Pastor and truly has a heart for the people of his congregation.

    You may say, "but Uncle So-and-so means so much to me, I want him to marry me and my fiancee." Or maybe it's Aunt So-and-so. Or a really great friend. Or a bum on the street. Whomever. Well, if that's the case, can't you find some other way to include that person into your special day? Perhaps they can add some remarks or read a passage. Sing a song. Stand by your side.

    You may say, "Well, I don't want a pastor to marry us because I'm not religious." Well, then just go to a Justice of the Peace. Or ask that a real Ordained Pastor tailor the service so it's not so focused on religion.

    In a nutshell, sheesh.
    Signed,
    A real Ordained Pastor's Wife
  • Jun 25, 2012, 07:37 PM
    HelloKitty345
    Oh, and there are no "tax benefits" to being a Pastor. Quite the opposite. They fall under a dual taxation status. Clergy taxes are highly complex, if that is your primary occupation.

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