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  • Oct 3, 2011, 05:06 PM
    veryfrustrated
    Child support non biological children
    My son is in the military with a home address of NC but resides in TX. He married a girl that was pregnant but he is not the biological father. They are getting divorced and she refuses to share custody but wants to get child support. She has been awarded $1100 month temporary child support. He can't afford to pay this amount. She has admitted in the court that this is not his child. What can he do?
  • Oct 3, 2011, 05:31 PM
    twinkiedooter
    He needs to hire an attorney to present a new child support amount to the judge. There is something wrong here as that amount is extremely high. And even if the child is not his biologically, the fact that it was born while he was married to her is meaningless as any child born during a marriage becomes the husband's child. There needs to be a child support modification entered here based on his earnings and her earnings. And the custody matter can be heard at the same time before the Judge.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:12 PM
    veryfrustrated
    Well initially he wanted to continue his relationship with the child so he was asking for shared custody. An initial child support of $860 was discussed but the mother stated that she receives subsidy for housing and childcare and that the $860 would make her lose the subsidy, so the judge determined that he should pay the difference. This was in August. We recently found out that she has moved out of state with her new boyfriend and was living in SC and was not paying rent or child care at the time of the hearing.

    My son's lawyer is another story. She asked for #3500 for the divorce, which he paid up front. I don't think she was doing a good job representing him. The last hearing was in August and she told him he didn't need to be there. He stayed in Texas and got a letter a week later telling him that he had failed to appear in court and today he got a letter form her requesting to withdraw from the case. We don't know what to do.

  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:35 PM
    GV70
    Which state has jurisdiction?
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:36 PM
    GV70
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    He married a girl that was pregnant but he is not the biological father... Well initially he wanted to continue his relationship with the child so he was asking for shared custody.

    Thus much at least is clear he cannot deny he must pay child support.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    ...she refuses to share custody but wants to get child support. She has been awarded $1100 month temporary child support.

    Custody and child support are different things.There are two main types of custody-legal and physical custody. If your son does not have shared/ joint/ physical custody, he may ask for visitation.
    Generally the judges have broad discretion to decide what child support payments must be paid.Firstly they have to determine what amount must be paid under the state's Child support percentage guidelines , and after that they have discretion to increase that support under s.c. "Needs of the Child".

    However,
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    ...she has moved out of state with her new boyfriend and was living in SC and was not paying rent or child care at the time of the hearing.

    sounds to me as contempt of court.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:45 PM
    veryfrustrated
    North Carolina
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:46 PM
    ScottGem
    He can also bring up to the court that she moved without notifying him.

    We need to know the locales here. Also the age of the child. Its possible he may be able to rescind his paternity. There are certainly possibilities here if we have more info we can suggest them.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:52 PM
    veryfrustrated
    Non biological children child support
    The case is being seen in NC. He currently resides in TX. The child is 4 years old and when I said she doesn't want to share custody, I mean she has hidden the child and refuses him visitation. She wants the money but does not want him to have a relationship with the child, which is why he is requesting to be released from this obligation.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 06:56 PM
    ScottGem
    Please use the Answer box below to post follow-up. Don't Ask a new question which starts a separate thread. I've merged the threads for you.

    Hiding a child is parental kidnapping. Did he ask for visitation as part of the original divorce? Was any granted?
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:03 PM
    veryfrustrated
    Yes, and it was not granted
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:08 PM
    GV70
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    He married a girl that was pregnant but he is not the biological father... Well initially he wanted to continue his relationship with the child so he was asking for shared custody

    His first BIG mistake.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    Yes, and it was not granted

    Thus he must pay child support without right to see the child.
    Ordinarily the noncustodial parent is entitled to reasonable visitation rights with a minor child except in extraordinary situations, such as when the noncustodial parent has a history of abusing or neglecting the child. Visitation can be flexible and unstructured, assuming the parties can get along and agree on the times and terms of visitation, or it can be highly structured and rigid, with certain days and times set out with great specificity.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:11 PM
    GV70
    No custody order is ever "permanent." However, once a parent is awarded custody in a court order, the judge can change the custody order only if there is a substantial change in circumstances since the time of entry of that prior order. Usually it must be proven that the change has a direct and adverse effect on the child.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:17 PM
    veryfrustrated
    At this point and seeing all the controversy this situation has brought, I think it's best for him to rescind paternity. The child is still small and probably won't be hurt as musch. I think that an ongoing battle between the 2 can only make things worse for the child.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:20 PM
    ScottGem
    He needs a better lawyer.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:23 PM
    GV70
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    I think it's best for him to rescind paternity. The child is still small and probably won't be hurt as musch. I think that an ongoing battle between the 2 can only make things worse for the child.

    Impossible under the theories of laches and equitable estoppel.
    However his only chance under the NC laws is to find the biological father and to beg him to step on the picture.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:25 PM
    GV70
    49‑12.1. Legitimation when mother married.

    (a) The putative father of a child born to a mother who is married to another man may file a special proceeding to legitimate the child. The procedures shall be the same as those specified by G.S. 49‑10, except that the spouse of the mother of the child shall be a necessary party to the proceeding and shall be properly served. A guardian ad litem shall be appointed to represent the child if the child is a minor.

    (b) The presumption of legitimacy can be overcome by clear and convincing evidence.

    (c) The parties may enter a consent order with the approval of the clerk of superior court. The order entered by the clerk shall find the facts and declare the proper person the father of the child and may change the surname of the child.

    (d) The effect of legitimation under this section shall be the same as provided by G.S. 49‑11.

    (e) A certified copy of the order of legitimation under this section shall be sent by the clerk of superior court under his official seal to the State Registrar of Vital Statistics who shall make a new birth certificate bearing the full name of the father of the child and, if ordered by the clerk, changing the surname of the child. (1991, c. 667, s. 2; 1991 (Reg. Sess. 1992), c. 1030, s. 15; 1997‑433, s. 4.9; 1998‑17, s. 1.)
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:26 PM
    veryfrustrated
    I think so too. I don't really think she's even made an effort to represent him effectively. Now she's trying to withdraw from the case and they're not even divorced yet. So now he's minus $3500 he paid his lawyer and minus the $1100 he's been paying since July; he's almost broke and can't even see the child.
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:30 PM
    GV70
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by veryfrustrated View Post
    ...they're not even divorced yet. So now he's minus $3500 he paid his lawyer and minus the $1100 he's been paying since July; he's almost broke and can't even see the child.

    Ooops... then he MAY put the paternity question. Get a new lawyer ASAP!
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:41 PM
    veryfrustrated
    Thanks. That's what I guess it all boils down to. It's just that I don't know how far he's been damaged in court with his feeble representation and if he will be able to have someone new step into the case to try to mitigate some of the damage. Any ideas?
  • Oct 3, 2011, 07:46 PM
    GV70
    It will depend on the judge.
    A temorary support orders are issued in almost all cases including child support to step children when divorce is pending.

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