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  • May 1, 2011, 08:34 PM
    paraclete
    Do we celebrate now or later?
    It is said that Osama Bin laden is dead, killed by a US bomb in the Pakistani capital
    Osama Bin Laden dead: US has the body | News.com.au

    Bo has since said it was a seal eem who but coincidence shot him in the head.

    This news has the potential to widen the rift between the US and Pakistan on the scope of US operations in Pakistan but gives credence to the possibility that Pakistan not only knew where OBL was hiding but gave him sanctionary.

    What will be the outcome? Will that threatened atomic detonation take place? And how interesting that the timing of the death may have coincided with the threat. Having cut off the head of the snake can the US expect al qaeda to diminish in influence or has the US given Islam a high profile martyr?"
  • May 1, 2011, 08:45 PM
    ScottGem
    Bin Laden Dead
    Obama just announced that Bin Laden was killed in an operation in Pakistan and the body recovered.

    It's about time!
  • May 1, 2011, 08:53 PM
    J_9

    Party at my house!
  • May 1, 2011, 08:53 PM
    paraclete

    Yes Scott I commented on it earler. It will be interesting to hear the full facts of how it was accomplished but an excellent win
  • May 2, 2011, 02:05 AM
    paraclete

    Just want to say I prefer to celebrate now, we don't know what tomorrow will bring. Actually I join with all those who have lost or who have been affected by the actions of this man in saying job well done and up yours Pakistan
  • May 2, 2011, 02:22 AM
    tomder55

    The facts in the OP need correction . OBL was wacked in a fire-fight with Navy Seals .

    He was living in luxury in a neighborhood next to a golf course and an arena ,close to an airport for a quick escape ,where elite government officials and former ISI retire .
    The Paki's have much to answer for. This comes the same week it was revealed that Paki PM Yousuf Raza Gilani suggested to Karzai that he dump an alliance with the US ,and hitch his wagon on an alliance with the Chinese.
  • May 2, 2011, 02:25 AM
    NeedKarma
    Osama bin Laden killed by U.S. forces; body buried at sea

    No body - how convenient.
  • May 2, 2011, 02:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Osama bin Laden killed by U.S. forces; body buried at sea

    Apparently they, um, buried him at sea. No body.
  • May 2, 2011, 03:17 AM
    tomder55

    Respecting the Islamic tradition of a quick burial... and insuring no Bin Laden shrine is made of his burial site.
  • May 2, 2011, 03:24 AM
    tomder55

    You're no different than Trump.
  • May 2, 2011, 03:33 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes Scott I commented on it earler. It will be interesting to hear the full facts of how it was accomplished but an excellent win

    I did look for a previous thread before I posted. But I guess the title didn't suggest the subject enough. So I've merged the threads.

    Frankly, I don't believe the Ottawa press report. It makes no sense. Lets not post a lot of speculation. Tomder, where did you get your information? One of the things I want to know is the conditions under which he was living.

    As for celebration, I am ambivalent about that. I do not think the death of ANYONE is a cause for celebration. I think Bin Laden's death should be dealt with in a different manner not the wild celebrations and exultation I've been hearing about. But frankly, I'm not sure what that manner should be. Obviously I can understand the reasons and need of some people to celebrate in such a manner.

    The question about what this means for al qaeda is key. But the US had no choice here. Alive, Bin Laden was a rallying point for extreme Islamic terrorists. Dead he is a martyr for extreme Islamic terrorists. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
  • May 2, 2011, 03:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    respecting the Islamic tradition

    Happy to see the US respecting islamic tradition - Mission Accomplished!
  • May 2, 2011, 04:00 AM
    tomder55

    Scott ;what part of my response do you dispute ?
  • May 2, 2011, 04:07 AM
    paraclete

    What Tom no celebration. OBL got wacked, at least it was done by americans, poetic justice
  • May 2, 2011, 04:10 AM
    paraclete

    I wonder how the Palestinians took it seeing the americans celebrating in the streets, now give us all something else to celebrate an end to hostilities
  • May 2, 2011, 04:17 AM
    tomder55

    I'm united with ALL AMERICANS celebrating OBL's descent to Hades. Hope he enjoys his 72 skanks.


    Coincidence... May 1 is also the same date Hitler's death was announced .
  • May 2, 2011, 04:25 AM
    tomder55

    Scott Here is a link to the luxury compound he was living in .

    Bin Laden was found at luxury Pakistan compound - OrlandoSentinel.com
    Quote:

    The home is in Abbottabad, a town about 35 miles north of Islamabad, that is relatively affluent and home to many retired members of Pakistan's military.
    It was a far cry from the popular notion of bin Laden hiding in some mountain cave on the rugged and inaccessible Afghan-Pakistan border -- an image often evoked by officials up to and including former President George W. Bush.

    The building, about eight times the size of other nearby houses, sat on a large plot of land that was relatively secluded when it was built in 2005. When it was constructed, it was on the outskirts of Abbottabad's center, at the end of a dirt road, but some other homes have been built nearby in the six years since it went up, officials said.

    WALLS TOPPED WITH BARBED WIRE

    Intense security measures included 12- to 18-foot outer walls topped with barbed wire and internal walls that sectioned off different parts of the compound, officials said. Two security gates restricted access, and residents burned their trash, rather than leaving it for collection as did their neighbors, officials said.

    Few windows of the three-story home faced the outside of the compound, and a terrace had a seven-foot (2.1 meter) privacy wall, officials said.

    "It is also noteworthy that the property is valued at approximately $1 million but has no telephone or Internet service connected to it," an administration official said. "The brothers had no explainable source of wealth."
  • May 2, 2011, 05:56 AM
    smoothy

    Glad they finally got him.

    Surprised they didn't want to give him his constitutionally guaranteed right to a trial... like the GITMO people. I'm waiting for the ACLU to harp on it.

    Personally I think killing him was the right thing to do.

    I would have fed his body to hogs for initial processing... but dumping his corpse in the ocean to be reprocessed by sea organisms is perfectly satisfactory.
  • May 2, 2011, 06:05 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I'm waiting for the ACLU to harp on it.

    Don't think that's going to happen, the US respected islamic ritual.
  • May 2, 2011, 06:18 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Glad they finally got him.

    Surprised they didn't want to give him his constitutionally guaranteed right to a trial....like the GITMO people. I'm waiting for the ACLU to harp on it.

    Personally I think killing him was the right thing to do.

    I would have fed his body to hogs for initial processing...but dumping his corpse in the ocean to be reprocessed by sea organisms is perfectly satisfactory.

    They gave him the option to surrender.
    Osama bin Laden Death Prompts Celebrations and Security Alerts - ABC News

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