Where can I get the rules and regulations that a probation officer, (state or county)is subject to. It seems lack of unawareness of the law lends to probation officers bending the rules especially when they may have a personal vendetta against the person on probation. Their perceived power and manifested insecurities gets in the way of their doing a good job for the betterment of the one on probation. No wonder our jails have a revolving door and our prisons are full. What has happened to concept of rehabilitation?

Let me guess... YOU are on probation and don't like having to follow the rules about probation.

You do have a choice... stay in jail and not accept probation and thus not have to follow the rules they lay down.

YOU have to look at it this way... if you was in the Army there is a lot of things they can't do to you... but if you insist on not doing what is expected they have soooooo many ways to make your life a living hell you can't possible regulate it. But do as asked and they would be happy to leave you alone... its not like you are their only person they have to keep tabs on. Behave within the norms of society and what they restrict you to and there will be no issues.

As far as where you would go... that will vary in every state as those are state level functions, not federal. So every state will have their own as well as every US territory.

That would fall under the Dept of Justice, and under the Dept of Prisons or whatever your state calls it, so finding your states main website for that would be a good place to start.

That will vary depending on what country you live in... I was assuming a USA residence.

Nice try but you guessed wrong. My crime was unlawful position. My complaint is how should this interfere with my being able to go home to my girlfriend and all my belongings... once released from jail. I have heard by another probation officer if I go home I will be arrested... there is no restraining order or a no-contact order... and nothing has been provided to me by my probation officer; either in writing or verbal. I do not have a history of violence and have never harmed my girl in any physical manor. My jail time was due to stolen car; but it is my girlfriends' car and she did not report the car stolen... Since this is not the original crime my probation officer was provided for can she decide under these circumstances my girlfriend is a victim? Especially since I have not even had a trial yet? What about my constitutional right…innocent until proven guilty? We are going to marriage counseling and plan to spend our lives together. Please advise where I can research the law as to the power to refuse me to go to my own home. Thanks

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Nice try but you guessed wrong. My crime was unlawful position. My complaint is how should this interfere with my being able to go home to my girlfriend and all my belongings...once released from jail. I have heard by another probation officer if I go home I will be arrested...there is no restraining order or a no-contact order...and nothing has been provided to me by my probation officer; either in writing or verbal. I do not have a history of violence and have never harmed my girl in any physical manor. My jail time was due to stolen car; but it is my girlfriends’ car and she did not report the car stolen...Since this is not the original crime my probation officer was provided for can she decide under these circumstances my girlfriend is a victim? Especially since I have not even had a trial yet? What about my constitutional right…innocent until proven guilty? We are going to marriage counseling and plan to spend our lives together. Please advise where I can research the law as to the power to refuse me to go to my own home. Thanks

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You still haven't told us what STATE and what Country you live in... (this site isn't limited to any one country). There is no one universal law. And no one universal website that has everything. We need to know that info.

And incidentally... you haven't even been tried for the crime yet? That means you haven't been convicted and sentenced yet... therefor you can't be on probation yet, and thus you can't have an issue with a probation officer you could not have been assigned yet. Or is there something else you are leaving out or is this a hypothetical homework question for law school?

Hello Smoothy, Ok if you are in law school you did not read my last comment carefully and this could cost you or your client a lot of money... or time. Had you carefully read my comment, you would have seen the probation is for unlawful possession... my new alleged crime of steeling my girlfriends car... therefore my probation officer considers her a victim... and NO, I still have not been tried regarding this alleged crime... We both know it will be throw out of court... at least in the State of WA, Spokane County. My girlfriend not only did not report the car stolen she gave me permission to take the car. My point is this alleged crime is not my probation officers concern... yet she thinks she has the right to tell me I can not go home to my (quote:"victimized")girl where I live and all my personal belonging and truck are located. This is why I want to know what the probation officer boundaries are. Can they tell you who you can associate with and live with? Seems likely if my probation crime was violence against my girl or anyone for that matter... but again, original crime was unlawful possession. Got it? Really what my original question is: Where can I locate a WA State, Spokane County, rules and regulations a probation officer must comply with. What are their boundaries, rights and legal authority? Thanks for your answer.

Why unlawful possession if you had your girlfriend's permission? Who complained? Why are you on probation for this if it hasn't gone before a judge?

You amuse me... both wonder girl and smoothy... neither of you can read my statement correctly. Either you are just reading too quickly or you have pre-conceived ideas or judgmental?? Who knows. If you want please try reading again. If you both are law students... God help us... and you too.

1. I have a probation officer secondary to unlawful possession started in November 2010
2. Now listen... this is a separate event that has occurred while on probation (Feb 2011)... alleged thief of car.. and did jail time secondary to probation vilation for being picked up... (not possession either)
3. Probation officer states... cannot go home as girlfriend is a victim since I was driving her car when I was picked up... I do not want to get into the second event as it is not relevant to my question.
4.So where can I find the rules and regulation a probation officer is subject to or my rights??

That question was already answered, about the rules and regs of POs. Why are YOU not reading?

If you bothered to read my Profile, you'd know who and what I am.

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Where can I get the rules and regulations that a probation officer, (state or county)is subject to.

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Hello E:

Ask your PO for a copy. It's not PRIVATE or SECRET.

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Where I worked they were called SOP ( standard operating procedures,) they were about 15 or so manuals of 1000 or so pages.

In addition each probation will be subject to specific judges rules, and in some areas by classification, ( level of crime, past violations and so on)

If you go back to the victim of your previous crime and there is a problem, yep, back in jail

If you go back and kiss and make up, normally nothing happens.

The funny part ( you may not see it as funny) if you want to go back to get your belongings, you should ask the police to meet you there to supervise you getting it

With that, PO's hate attitude. They can find any and every reason to violate you, And there are enough rules to make you follow they can always find one if they really want to. Your posts show a problem with attitude.

Also where did you ever hear or get an idea that the PO where here for some social good to soceity, they are not here to find you a job, to help you with anything, they are here to catch you breaking the rules and send you back, that is their only and main job. The idea of them acting like a social worker and actually helping you went out with Jimmy Carter

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Hello Smoothy, Ok if you are in law school you did not read my last comment carefully and this could cost you or your client a lot of money...or time. Had you carefully read my comment, you would have seen the probation is for unlawful possession...my new alleged crime of steeling my girlfriends car ...

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You may think otherwise, but the previous comment was not that clear:

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Nice try but you guessed wrong. My crime was unlawful position. ... My jail time was due to stolen car; but it is my girlfriends' car and she did not report the car stolen...Since this is not the original crime my probation officer was provided for
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I have not even had a trial yet? What about my constitutional right…innocent until proven guilty? ...

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And if you were convicted of unlawful possession, you no longer have the presumption of innocence. Your PO owns you.

I note that OP refers to unlawful "position." Exactly what position would that be?

I'm also not sure what this is all about but if you read OP's posts I don't think they appear to be written by the same person - ability to express himself seems to ebb and flow.

I'm working on how you can be convicted of stealing a car when no one reported it stolen and you had permission to use it.

But back to the question - yes, ask the PO for the rules.