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  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:28 PM
    emcee97
    Is it true that The Gospel is the reading from the Old Testament?
    Is it true that The Gospel is the reading from the Old Testament?
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:30 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Can you reword that question a little better?
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:36 PM
    emcee97
    Is it true that the gospel is a reading from the old testament?
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:46 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Comment on emcee97's post
    The gospels of Jesus Christ are very much foretold in the old testament by God's prophets if that is what you were asking? Christianity was not some new religion that just started. It really is the continuation of how God deals with the world and Israel. The Jews should have found a beautiful transition into grace through Christ. That, obviously, was not the case so now Judaism and Christianity are seen as two separate religions.
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:51 PM
    emcee97
    Why can't you just answer yes or no? It's much more easier. Seriously I don't know if it's a yes or no. Is it true or not?
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:54 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Well to get to the point, your question really has no content. Your wording is poor at best and I can only guess as to what you are really asking. My GUESS is that you are asking if the gospels have a connection with the Old Testament. In that case, YES. If you are trying to ask something else... please do so with a more specific question.
  • Apr 23, 2011, 05:55 PM
    emcee97
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    Whatever.
  • Apr 23, 2011, 06:00 PM
    Wondergirl

    No. The Gospel reading is from the New Testament, from either Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.
  • Apr 23, 2011, 06:26 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    I will agree I have no idea what so ever what the OP is asking.

    Gospel ? Are you talking about what is called the Gospel reading that many churches do each week ? If so, the Gospel reading in most churches is from the New Testement, the reading from the OT is merely referred to as such

    I assume you know what you wish to know, but your question makes no sense what soever to anyone else
  • Apr 24, 2011, 02:12 AM
    HeadStrongBoy
    The answer, in my opinion, is it depends on whom you ask. Most conservative mainstream Christians will say that the "gospel" is the New Testament only. But a much better definition is that the whole Bible, both Old Testament and New Testament are the "gospel." If you'd like further discussion on this issue I'd be glad to accommodate with scripture references to support my point of view.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 05:36 AM
    hauntinghelper
    No, that is the case... both the OT and the NT should be viewed as the complete gospel.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 09:48 AM
    dwashbur

    The question is still so vague that it's basically meaningless. Trying to answer it won't really get us anywhere until the OP clarifies it.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 10:36 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    The Jews should have found a beautiful transition into grace through Christ.

    I very much disagree with this part of your response. It is basically an insult to anyone who follows Judaism.

    The divergence of Judaism and Christianity occurred because Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament. This is because Jews believe that not all the signs foretold were present to confirm Jesus as the Messiah.

    I'm not going to get into an argument about those signs or whether they were met or not. The fact is that this is all a matter of faith and belief. Jews believe one way, Christians another. A further divergence occurred when Muslims took another path.

    But to state that Jews should have followed Jesus, is tantamount to saying Christians should have followed Muhammad.

    To emcee, I agree with the others that your question is too vague. You really need to try to clarify what you want to know. Start by defining what you mean by "The Gospel"
  • Apr 24, 2011, 04:51 PM
    hauntinghelper
    I understand what you're saying, but just because an answer isn't politically correct does not take away from it's validity.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 05:29 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    I understand what you're saying, but just because an answer isn't politically correct does not take away from it's validity.

    If you are replying to my post, what validity are you talking about? Your belief in Jesus is based on your faith. It is no more valid than my disbelief in Jesus as the Messiah. It's not an issue of political correctness, its an issue respecting what other people believe. If you wish to believe and find comfort in that belief I'm very happy for you. But when you put down someone else's beliefs then that's wrong.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 05:37 PM
    hauntinghelper
    I didn't put anybody down. I was simply referring to history.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 05:44 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    I didn't put anybody down. I was simply referring to history.

    What history? My original objection was to your statement that "Jews should have found a beautiful transition into grace through Christ." That's not history that's religious belief.
  • Apr 24, 2011, 07:04 PM
    classyT

    ScpttGem,

    According to the Bible Jesus Christ came to the Jews. He was a Jew. He LOVES the Jews. And YES! They should have known who EXACTLY who he was and is and always shall be. Why is that an insult?

    To the OP,

    The question makes NO sense. The gospel ( or the good news) is explained fully in Romans. The Life of Jesus is found in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. The promise of the gospel can be found as far back as Genesis, right after the fall of Adam when God said the Seed of the woman would crush the head of the serpent.

    The gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, God's Son and believing in HIM in order to be saved from the curse that Adam began.

    The answer to your question is NO... and yes! When you understand the New Testament, you see him revealed ALL through the old.
  • Apr 25, 2011, 03:33 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    ScpttGem,

    According to the Bible Jesus Christ came to the Jews. He was a Jew. He LOVES the Jews. And YES! they should have known who EXACTLY who he was and is and always shall be. Why is that an insult?

    I'm sorry but you are making the same mistake. What you cite is according to the NEW TESTAMENT not the whole Bible. It is NOT established fact of what Jesus was. That's where you go wrong. Judaism does not believe the same thing you do. I respect that you believe as you do. I'm not saying that you are wrong in your belief. I'm saying I don't know for a fact who is right. But neither do you. It is all based on faith. So when you tell any Jew that he or his ancestors were wrong in their belief then you are not respecting that belief. And that's where the insult comes in.
  • Apr 25, 2011, 05:49 AM
    classyT

    Scottgem,

    I love Jewish people. My savior was a Jew. I'm not dissin anyone. I am a Christian and you are correct in saying that I believe it by faith.
    I respect everyone's RIGHT to believe what they believe. But I believe Jesus Christ.

    I do not and would not get on the Judaism board and even suggest they missed their messiah and that their beliefs system is wrong. Now that WOULD be insulting. I'm not sure how posting it on the Christianity board is insulting. Jesus Christ is the son of God and the promised messiah of the OT. That is what the Christian faith is based on.

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