Rasmussen says 58% of Americans support a government shutdown over maintaining current spending levels. Do you?
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Rasmussen says 58% of Americans support a government shutdown over maintaining current spending levels. Do you?
Yes... they have to learn to live within a budget like the rest of us have to... every day.
Last time the government shut down ,all the chicken little predictions did not come to pass.
The Republicans and Newt did manage it poorly ,and suffered for that in 2006 . Still ,what we got in the Clintoon 2nd term was a President who was willing to reform welfare and other buget killing programs . I don't think that would've happened without the showdown.
Hello Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Most Americans are stupid. They want a shutdown of the OTHER guys government services. But, you can bet they want THEIR services continued.. I'm no different. If a government shutdown means the wars will stop, and I can smoke pot in the police station, then I'm for it.
But, I want my garbage picked up, my SS checks to arrive, and my meat INSPECTED! You ain't no different either. You want your airplanes controlled, your jails guarded, and you want your meat INSPECTED too.
If it happens this time, I think they'll ALL be punished. You and I DO agree about this: the single, most important message the voters sent their legislators, is GET SOMETHING done. Letting the government shut down exhibits the opposite. But, it sounds good, doesn't it?
excon
I like what John Boehner said . He will propose 2 week extensions with the budget cuts proposed divided equally into the 2 week intervals until at the end of the fiscal year,all the cuts proposed are part of the budget. He said that if the Dems won't swallow a whole loaf at one time, we'll make them eat it one slice at a time.
And I thought you guys were all about private enterprise and what do you call it? "outsourcing". You mean to say you actually do have government as a service provider over there?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The classic quote. When I say it I'm attacked, when you say it it has the ring of truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Well... Obama DID get voted into office... thats the only explanation for THAT happening. Either that many Americans are stupid or there was massive voter fraud.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
H'mmmm, an each way bet then?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I think it was a bit of both... ACORN was caught red handed committing massive fraud on his behalf... and I think it was enough to tip the election that might have been close otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I was born and raised here... and there really are a bunch of dumb and lazy people around... most of them vote democrat because they expect the handouts, and don't think they should earn what they want. Same is true in Italy (based on first hand experience) and other countries, only there its usually the Socialists and Communists they vote for.
Nah , the October surprise was the financial melt down and the way McCain reacted to it. Both candidates supported the unnecessary TARP . But McCain was perceived as having the equivalent of a panic attack ,while Obama ,cool and calm,voted present.
Well smoothy I've always said that those under 100 IQ had to live somewhere, perhaps you have found them or perhaps notQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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Hello again:
Yup. We're going to have a shutdown. BOTH parties are positioning themselves to BE the victim, and blame the other guy. Who do you think is going to win?
Frankly, I think the Republicans will. Obama is NO Clinton.
excon
You think ? I just think this is a big drama that they are playing in lieu of doing real work. Ithink by Thurs all the ducks will be in a row for another stupid CR .
I do not fear a government shutdown. They say the government will operate 'essential services' . They miss the point . The role of the government is to provide 'essential services ' .Anything else is excess.
They are quibbling over $ amts that are pathetic . I can't wait until the Ryan budget for next year gets debated .
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You're RIGHT. But, IF the Republicans get blamed for the shutdown, Ryan's budget is dead on arrival.
But, if the Democrats get blamed, Obama will lose his re-election and I better thank my lucky stars that I'm already getting the SS and Medicare benefits I paid for.
excon
You know my position... It is my daughter who I am concerned about . She is at the beginning of her career and she'll never see the benefits she'll pay into. I wouldn't blame her generation for cutting us off . It is us who have let this SS scam go on far too long.
I'm a huge fan of Paul Ryan. He will not run this cycle .But watch out. He is a star.
Just as the folks in Wisconsin (again backed by a big union push) are targeting Republicans for a recall instead of the Democrats that left the state and refused to do their job, someone in Washington is targeting the wrong person. A Facebook event "If Boehner shuts down the government I am taking my trash to his house," is planned if there is s shutdown.
They should target Pelosi's House since she was in charge of the House that failed to pass a budget, or Dirty Harry Reid's house because he believes Planned Parenthood funding is more important than paying our military.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Or, said another way, the Republicans are willing to shut down the ENTIRE government from one end to the other, INCLUDING not paying our soldiers, because the Democrats won't agree to DEFUND Planned Parenthood.
I thought this was about MONEY, not about abortion...
excon
Poor babies...
How about we just ram it through without their vote like Obamacare was.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
You COULD if you controlled the legislature and the presidency, like the Democrats did. But, you don't.
Boo hoo.
excon
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