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  • Jan 11, 2007, 03:44 PM
    susa
    How closely are we related?
    My father's niece married and had kids. How are they related to me? I think she was my cousin, but what are her kids' relationship to me?m
  • Jan 11, 2007, 03:57 PM
    chuff
    I think that makes them your second cousins. I think that's to close to date.
  • Jan 11, 2007, 04:18 PM
    susa
    Thanks Chuff, but was their mom my cousin? She was my father's niece. I'm so confused!
  • Jan 11, 2007, 04:29 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes she would be your cousin, her kids your second cousin, and if they latter have kids your third cousin
  • Jan 11, 2007, 06:42 PM
    ordinaryguy
    Your parents are siblings.

    She's your first cousin.

    Her kids are your first cousins once removed.

    Her grandkids are your first cousins twice removed.

    Your kids and her kids are second cousins.

    Your kids and her grandkids are second cousins once removed.

    Your kids and her great grandkids are second cousins twice removed.

    Your grandkids and her grandkids are third cousins.

    Your grandkids and her great grandkids are third cousins once removed.

    And so on...
  • Jan 11, 2007, 07:42 PM
    s_cianci
    They are your first cousins, once removed.
  • Jan 11, 2007, 08:41 PM
    chuff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ordinaryguy
    Your parents are siblings.

    She's your first cousin.

    Her kids are your first cousins once removed.

    Her grandkids are your first cousins twice removed.

    Your kids and her kids are second cousins.

    Your kids and her grandkids are second cousins once removed.

    Your kids and her great grandkids are second cousins twice removed.

    Your grandkids and her grandkids are third cousins.

    Your grandkids and her great grandkids are third cousins once removed.

    And so on...

    UHHHH, I was told that there would be no math!
  • Jan 13, 2007, 03:33 AM
    susa
    Our parents are not siblings. HIS father is my father's niece. There is a generation between us. My father's sister was his grandmother. His mother was my dad's niece. So I believe that makes him my first cousin, once removed. Is that right? Thank you again for all the input.
  • Jan 13, 2007, 06:10 AM
    ordinaryguy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by susa
    my father's neice married and had kids. How are they related to me? I think she was my cousin, but what are her kids' relationship to me?m

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by susa
    our parents are not siblings.

    When I said your parents are siblings, I was referring to you and your father's niece. Her mother is your father's sister, right?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by susa
    HIS father is my father's neice.

    Your father's niece (female) can't be anyone's father. The HIM you're talking about is the niece's son, right?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by susa
    There is a generation between us. My father's sister was his grandmother. His mother was my dad's neice. So I believe that makes him my first cousin, once removed. Is that right? Thank you again for all the input.

    Unless I'm even more confused than I think I am, that's right.
  • Jan 13, 2007, 06:44 AM
    susa
    Hi Ordinary Guy, you're not nearly as confused as I am, obviously! My father's niece is this person's mother.

    My brother said that, since there's a generation skip he is my first cousin once removed.

    Yes, the HIM I speak of is the niece's son.
  • Jan 13, 2007, 06:52 AM
    Nosnosna
    You are first cousins once removed.

    To determine this, count back the number of generations to the common ancestor for each of you:
    You, father, grandfather. 2 generations.
    Him, mother (father's niece), parent (father's sibling), grandfather. 3 generations.

    1 generation is siblings. 2 generations is first cousins. 3 generations is second cousins. 4 generations is third cousins. And so on.

    Now, choose the shorter of the two paths. That would be two generations, so you're first cousins.

    Now, take the difference between the two paths (3 - 2 = 1) gives you once removed.

    Therefore, you are first cousins once removed.

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