Here is a good question...

We all know the real lefties like to smoke their weed... think they can make it legal despite a federal law making it illegal. This was shot down as a referendum vote in CA.

Yet the very same people get their bowels in an uproar when Arizona tries to actually pass a law that SUPPORTS existing Federal law...

Do they think states should stop prosecuting Murders because there is an existing Federal law already?

Do they think states should stop prosecuting and enforcing ANY law where there exists a federal law on the subject already?

Why to they also think a state law allowing them to get stoned should trump and ignore existing federal law outlawing it?

Thinking people see this as obvious hypocrisy... so how can they possibly justify their clear inconsistency?

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Why to they also think a state law allowing them to get stoned should trump and ignore existing federal law outlawing it?

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Hello smoothy:

Because we believe in states rights, which I thought WAS a right wing position... No, huh?

excon

I'll just put this right here:

It's that old "we want it both ways" thing ex likes to talk about. I'm sure that while they were arguing for California's right to legalize pot they were defending the feds' right to force us to buy health insurance.

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I'm sure that while they were arguing for California's right to legalize pot they were defending the feds' right to force us to buy health insurance.

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Hello Steve:

I don't know. When it comes to discussions about drugs, YOU'RE the one who seems high... If you recall (and it was only a couple days ago), I agreed with you about the nanny state. I told you that I didn't support ANY interference with my personal buying decisions... I told you further, that you really don't have any right to complain about the feds interfering with a buying decision YOU like, because you SUPPORT the feds ban on buying stuff you don't like...

Never did I say that I defend the feds right to do that... NEVER.

Like I said during our LAST discussion about pot, it's OK if you throw another lie onto the steaming pile of horse crap you've been peddling for the last 50 years. But, you should know, it ain't working anymore..

excon

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Hello smoothy:

Because we believe in states rights, which I thought WAS a right wing position... No, huh?

excon

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So... tokeing Marajuanna is a states right... but stopping illegal immigration in a state isn't?

When its not the Feds that Pay to educate illegals... pay for uninsured illegals using emergency rooms... or crimes illegals commit.


Why would a Federal law against Murder preclude a state from prosecuting murderers under state law... but a State Law against Illegals that mirrors a Federal law be considered unenforcible why is one different than the other.

Where does the Federal Government get off dictating what insurnce you can and can't have and forcing you to buy it, when the Insurance Industry as a whole has always been regulated at the state level.

I'm making a point that if Arizona can't enforce a law against illegals since the left (that wants to buy those votes) claims it's the Federal government already has a law against it and the state can't enforce any Federal laws the FEDS have to follow the LAW... and in the same breath claim smoking MaryJane should be a states choice even when the Federal Government already has a law against it... that it should be ignored, and the Feds SHOULDN'T be allowed to follow the law.


See, I DO believe in states rights... which is why Obamacare is unconstitutional.. (where in the Constitution are the Feds granted that power)... and Obamas suit trying to prevent Arizona from enforcing illegal immigration on their turf (Obama sees them as future Democrats) and hell barbara "punchdrunk" Boxer thinks Illegals should have the right to vote...

People with outstanding Federal warrants are picked up by local police who check up on Americans routinely... but the same police aren't allowed to check up on illegals with the Federal Government at all, because??

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Never did I say that I defend the feds right to do that.... NEVER.

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What are you all worked up about, "they" was a generic reference to California progressives, not you. I was otherwise giving you credit for the message on having it both ways. You do like to mention that don't you?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

See, I DO believe in states rights.....

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Hello again, smoothy:

You believe in states rights, when you LIKE the right the state is asserting... Otherwise, not so much... Talk about consistency... DUDE!

May I assume you also believe in smaller government?? Except, of course, when it comes to people deciding what they want to DO with their own bodies... You support a HUGE, HUMONGOUS federal police force dedicated to stamping out that moral scourge/freedom. I suppose you support a HUGE, HUMONGOUS federal police force to make sure every woman has their baby, too. I haven't heard you say anything about the HUGE, HUMONGOUS, unconstitutional government NSA spying program that's reading your emails and listening to your phone calls, as we speak. Talk about consistency. Dude!

Nope. I ain't buying, what you're selling.

excon

Here is a big one I forgot in the original post...


Liberals are sooooooo concerned about Terrorists at Gitmo getting dunked in some water... and that they have their day in court when THEY started a war...

And in the same breath think it's their individual right to dismember living undorn babies because using a condom was too much work...

(no I'm not an anti-abortion activist) But that's the biggest most blatant bit of hypocrisy I see on the left outside of the Al Gore the human black hole preaching about how we should NOT do what he does every day.

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Hello again, smoothy:

You believe in states rights, when you LIKE the right the state is asserting.... Otherwise, not so much... Talk about consistency.... DUDE!

May I assume you also believe in smaller government???? Except, of course, when it comes to people deciding what they want to DO with their own bodies.... You support a HUGE, HUMONGOUS federal police force solely dedicated to stamping out that moral scourge/freedom. I suppose you support a HUGE, HUMONGOUS federal police force to make sure every woman has their baby, too. I haven't heard you say anything about the HUGE, HUMONGOUS, unconstitutional government NSA spying program that's reading your emails and listening to your phone calls, as we speak. Talk about consistency. Dude!

Nope. I ain't buying, what you're selling.

excon

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The NSA and CIA are what have kept the west coast from becoming a radioactive smoldering wasteland...

They don't exist solely to read excons emails, trust me... unless you are into something I don't think you are.

I have far more respect for the employees of those agencies.. ( I will neither confirm nor deny if I know any)... than I have for anyone in the Democrat party. One protects our rights... the other wants to take them away... in that order.

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The NSA and CIA are what have kept the west coast from becoming a radioactive smoldering wasteland....

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Hello again, smoothy:

So, BIG government is just fine with you - as long as it's BIG government you like. Talk about inconsistency. Dude!

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

So, BIG government is just fine with you - as long as it's BIG government you like. Talk about inconsistency. Dude!

excon

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The Federal Government exists for the Common Defense.

If you knew what those agencies actually did... you would see how they mesh well with the military in keeping us safe.

Obamacare and Public housing are just two wastes of money and resources...

Without the Military and predecessors of the NSA and CIA, you wouldn't have the freedoms you so relish to do liberal things... or even be speaking English right now. You might be part of Emperial Japan... part of the Third Reich, or you might actually like this one... Part of the USSR. Assuming your parents or grandparents weren't executed for any reason in which case you wouldn't exist right now.

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Without the Military and predecessors of the NSA and CIA, you wouldn't have the freedoms you so relish to do liberal things......

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Hello again, smoothy:

So, at the risk of redundancy, BIG government is FINE with you, as long as it's BIG government you LIKE.

I'm just looking for a little Tea Party consistency here. That IS what this thread IS about. No?

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

So, at the risk of redundancy, BIG government is FINE with you, as long as it's BIG government you LIKE.

I'm just looking for a little Tea Party consistency here That IS what this thread IS about. No?

excon

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You do realize, that if those agencies did what you think they do... people would be knocking on your door and taking you away.

NSA, CIA, Military... Good Government, Welfare, EPA, NEA, Affirmative action... bad government.


You do realise Obama is not a small government type... he wants to dictate what color and style underwear you use... along with everything else in your life.

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Hello again, smoothy:

So, at the risk of redundancy, BIG government is FINE with you, as long as it's BIG government you LIKE.

I'm just looking for a little Tea Party consistency here. That IS what this thread IS about. No?

excon

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This is about Liberals and how they have NO cionsistancy...


You never answered from your perspective... about why terrorists that have been captured on the battlefield have more rights to be treated better than the long standing Democrat stance of it's the mothers right to have a doctor rip her unborn baby to bits while its heart is still beating inside her.


And why its not right for us to do the same with the terrorists that so many liberals want the freedom to do with their own unborn children?


I've been dying for ANYONE to publicly ask that question and hear the justifications.

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NSA, CIA, Military........Good Government, Welfare, EPA, NEA, Affirmative action.... bad government.

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Hello again, smoothy:

Not to beat a dead horse, but BIG government is FINE with you, as long as you think it's good government. Otherwise, not so much...

I understand your conflict. You don't have to explain it to me. I'm just pointing out, that what you SAY about big government, isn't consistent with what you SAY about big government.

That's all.

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

Not to beat a dead horse, but BIG government is FINE with you, as long as you think it's good government. Otherwise, not so much....

I understand your conflict. You don't have to explain it to me. I'm just pointing out, that what you SAY about big government, isn't consistent with what you SAY about big government.

That's all.

excon

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You are dodging my other question... terrorists having more rights than American babies in the eyes of liberals?

How does NSA and CIA equal Big government... when they are a small fraction of the Federal Workforce... which has grown leaps and bounds under Obama...

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How does NSA and CIA equal Big government.....

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Hello again, smoothy:

When the two of them together violate my rights under the Fourth, Fifth, Eighth, and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution.

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

When the two of them together violate my rights under the Fourth, Fifth, Eighth, and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution.

excon

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You are dodging my other question... terrorists having more rights than American babies in the eyes of liberals?


Funny... they (NSA and CIA) aren't violating anyone else's rights... hiding from them for some reason, are we?

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...terrorists having more rights than American babies in the eyes of liberals?

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Because only liberals have abortions? Only liberals support a women's right? You'd be wrong on both counts.