I have a second floor shower drain that is leaking. I have cut a hole in the ceiling downstairs to expose the drain. I went to Home Depot and purchased a new drain primarily to get the no caulk tool to loosen the top ring. I cannot remove the existing brass drain as I cannot loosen the bottom locknut. The subfloor is opstructing the access for a wrench. I couldn't find a telescoping tool to get at it straight up and down. Since I cannot loosen the nut I have place a bead of silicone around the top. I would love to loosen down below as I only see the paper type washer below the basin and not the rubber. Any thoughts on a tool I can try with tight clearance. Also how tight is tight enough on the top ring? I have tightened it and the rubber gasket is puckered. Wondering if this is too tight.