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  • Dec 29, 2006, 10:21 AM
    scri8e
    Wall Hung Sink Repair/Replace
    I am a Landlord. I have a turn over that the bathroom sink was, sat on, leaned on, stood on. So what I have is the sink tilted down and pulled away from the wall. The caulking is hanging in mid air.
    To repair this?

    1. I try tightening the bolts providing I can find them and there are bolts.

    2. I take it off the wall and try to bend the wall hangers back into position. Rehang the sink. Mud the wall back up paint and pray it holds.

    3. Bite the bullet and buy a new sink. Install mud and paint.

    4. Sink is right next to the shower tub combo.
    So vanity will get thrashed. If I could buy/build one small enough.

    4. I have two legs from another wall hung sink I didn't use. Might get away with those. I'll check them out. Still need to charge for the damage though. How do you charge for this if legs don't work for long. You end up replacing later?


    What do I charge to deduct from the security deposit?

    Yes 100% tenant damage. Have pics before & after.

    Not sure how to handle this. I guess the right way is to remove and replace and charge?
  • Dec 29, 2006, 10:58 AM
    questiontoknowledge
    My neighbor is a landlord to four rental houses and I listen to his horror stories and how he has dealt with them. I suggest you get at least two quotes from licensed contractors to use, should you have to go to court, unless of course you are one yourself. But you may just need new hangers and bolts a bit larger than the previous ones. Most of these types of sinks are secured to firestops (2x4s nailed horizontally between the studs) and a protrusion of the drywall would be evidence of damage to this extent. As long as the sink itself isn't cracked, you could reuse it. But there are two things you could do for the future.

    -Install a sink/vanity combo to prevent future damage like this
    -Revise your lease to add costs to replace fixtures/appliance and drywall damage.

    If you want, for a reasonable fee I can research a list like this, scan it, retype it in a word file and email it to you for future tenants.
  • Dec 29, 2006, 11:16 AM
    scri8e
    I am a Landlord and have owned several properties for 10years. I don't do leases. I only do Month to month and yes this type of damage is covered in my rental agreement. This is the purpose of security deposits.
    No I don't need this info and or a search put into a word file thank you LOL. I know my Landlord laws backwards and forwards.

    I am looking for info on wall hung sink repair.

    No as I stated a vanity would be negative addition and cause other problems such as reducing access to the tub/shower. The water damage it would instantly receive because of the location the materials that vanities are made of is usually a press board material
    Under a thin and easy to penitrate veneer surface. Once exeposed to water it swells and falls apart like a soaked gramcracker. Not to mention it is a mold growth medium.

    The fact that glass or plastic/plex-glass shower/tub doors would reduce access by at least 50%
  • Dec 30, 2006, 05:55 AM
    questiontoknowledge
    No problem, I also just remodeled my small full bath from wall mount to a vanity, one that actually has a smaller footprint then the sink. I'd wish they would stop using pressboard junk myself and instead at least use moisture resistant MDF. Anyway, I hope the suggestion to use larger bolts and new hangers under the sink helps, but the next phase of the damage could be structural instead of a $168 sink/vanity combo; or, if damaged by a tenant $250-lol. Best of luck whatever you do.
  • Dec 30, 2006, 05:26 PM
    speedball1
    If this were my problem, and the lavatory wasn't damaged, I would pull the lavatory, check the backing to be sure it's secure, and reinstall or replace the bracket. I would then hang and connect the lavatory and jump all over my tenet. That's about the cheapest way you're going to get out of it. Good luck, Tom
  • Dec 30, 2006, 05:43 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Have you all tried using the legs you can put on the lavatory, makes pushing it down a lot harder. Before he died, my dad could hardly walk, so he leaned on everything, he was pushing the sink out of place every few weeks, we finally put some leg braces on it and no trouble at all.

    I would replace the bracket and reset the lavatory.
  • Jun 17, 2012, 11:45 AM
    BengalTigger
    I disagree that this is 100% tenant damage. Wall-mounted sinks are an installation failure. I have never seen a wall-mounted sink that wasn't pulling away from the wall to some degree. In other words, if a builder decides to install a wall-mounted sink, he should know that it WILL pull away from the wall. The placement of the mounts and strength of the supports are just not engineered to withstand normal usage. A 4-year old doesn't know it is not okay to use the sink to support themselves so they can reach the water.

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