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  • Aug 13, 2010, 04:48 AM
    pavou
    Can 2 friends survive after having a sexual relationship?
    my relationship with paul up until now
    I and Paul have been friends for ages.
    Although we got to know each other when we had a little crush on each other, that last approximately 2 weeks when we were 15, we soon realized that we could be nothing more than friends. We enjoyed so much our talks, our long walks, the support of each other, than the complications of a sexual relationship.
    And that went on for 5 years.
    On the meantime we developed very different sex lives.
    paul's sex life up until now
    Paul is the guy that is looking for a long term relationship with the beautiful, petit, clever girl, and since he was 15 he has had 3 relationships of this kind. He was never single, never the guy that cheats on his girl and more or less every girls dream boy, considering he is also very very attractive.
    my sex life up until now
    Me on the other hand, having to learn the hard way when I was 16, grew up with the thought that I will not open my heart to anyone, that I do not want anyone who is better than me, anyone that I can admire, and chose the no-strings-attached approach, with guys that all they had was looks and no personality, education etc. I just wanted people to say "look! she's gorgeous and her boyfriend too" and that's all.
    the past 10 months
    Paul never approved the way I handled my sexual relationships, and sometimes not even the way I handled my life. You see I am a leaf in the wind and he is the organized guy with goals and potentials.
    10 months ago, one night on his car where we were talking about everything, he asked me to kiss him. I was astonished. I mean how could he ask me that? Did he think I am a whore that he can do whatever he wants without his girlfriend knowing anything?
    And I talked to him about that. And he told me I was irrational, like someone else was talking and not me. He respects me deeply and wants the best for me, and he can't hold his feelings anymore. He has been thinking and fantasizing about me for a long time, and he knows that the relationship we can develop no one will understand. And I was like "how can you do this to claire? i know her" and he said, what I have with you is so different and so special that has nothing to do with my relationship.
    After that night, every time we were together we had sex. As we don't live in the same city as we are studying at different universities, these times weren't numerous but enough to keep the passion alive. And although every time I thought he would stop this, he didn't, he had become even more addicted to it.
    I finally decided to end it. I fear the though of losing him, I hate myself for being jealous of anyone that's near him, I hate that we have become aggressive in the presence of our friends as we want to hide something, and I hate the fact that I can't look claire, he's girlfriend, in the eyes anymore.
    And I told him these, and he said OK lets stop and everything we'll be fine, we'll find a way.
    the question
    But can we really find a way. And what that will be? Us being friends like nothing ever happened? Us continuing a secret sexual relationship that tears us apart? Us being together when everything is against us?
    Our feelings for each other are very strong. He told me that no matter what happens I'll never leave you, I never have left you, although we have gone through a lot, and I never will. Our passion is insatiable, and even we try to keep it hidden our glances, our posture, everything shows it of. So what is going to happen? And what am I supposed to do? Because I can't just go and tell him, break up and be with me. I can't force him to do anything. It's his life after all.
  • Aug 13, 2010, 05:08 AM
    redhed35

    Your both 20 /21?

    Grow up and stop playing games with each other,either decide to be together,or leave it alone.

    He's cheating on his girlfriend,why is he still with her?

    He is having the best of both worlds,you his 'friend' and nice shag on the side,and the steady girlfriend.

    Either he wants you and wants to pursue a relationship with you,or he wants to settle down with claire.

    He can't have both,and neither can you.

    I don't think you can be the friends you were before,not just because of the sex,but the emotions that are now involved.

    Friends don't sleep with each other,or have secret affairs,'friends with benefits' the lowest end of the scale.

    For me,you both crossed a line that cannot be uncrossed.

    If you want to be together,he has too end it with claire,its unfair on her.

    He may be your 'friend' but he's a cheater too,lying to claire about his feelings and his relationship with you.
  • Aug 13, 2010, 05:18 AM
    pavou

    I have taken all these things into consideration that's why I decided to stop the silly secret affair as it's not working for anyone but himself.
    But I can't help thinking "what if i told him i am in love with him?" should I take such a risk?
    The only way me and paul will end up in bed together is only if he is not with claire anymore.
    But will he break up with her if he doesn't know my exact feelings and he is only making guesses?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
    talaniman

    Like so many before you the feelings of fantasy, love, and romance that you have expressed is in fact an excuse to justify helping him cheat and you both get to scratch each others itches.

    Nice romantic spin, on a friends with benefits thing, to bad it only applies to lust, not love, nor caring so your friend, or more accurately, F**** buddy, has made you the chick on the side and you want more? Don't be silly, leave him alone, better yet get him out of your life, and that will stop the games between you.

    Confess your feelings all you want, but be clear that most guys don't leave a legit g/f for a trick on the side.

    Sorry to be harsh, but when some one goes from this,
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    and I was like "how can you do this to Claire? i know her" and he said, what I have with you is so different and so special that has nothing to do with my relationship.
    To this,
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    after that night, every time we were together we had sex. As we don't live in the same city
    The word delusional comes to mind until I remembered this.
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    chose the no-strings-attached approach, with guys that all they had was looks and no personality, education etc. I just wanted people to say "look! she's gorgeous and her boyfriend too" and that's all.
    So that's what you wanted, that's what you got (well on paper any way), and that's all you deserve for giving in to what you thought would be more than sex, but was less than honest.

    No more games, no more delusions, no more crap, no more using, or being used. Get healthy, and have some healthy relationships that do more than stroke your very false ego, or feed the fantasies dancing in your head. Stop running from your true self, and take full responsibility for your actions and the consequences they have brought you. Get guidance if you need it, and I hope you do.
  • Aug 13, 2010, 09:25 AM
    I wish

    Tal and Red have covered all the important bases. To summarize:

    1) The day he asked you for a kiss is the day he became a cheater in your eyes. Far cry from the faithful boy that you knew in high school. He's not the same guy as you once knew.

    2) The minute you kissed him back and then went further with sex, you became his booty call.

    3) You can confess your love to him, but it's obvious that he doesn't love you. If he did, then he wouldn't have cheated and remained faithful to you.

    4) You accepted the role of being the booty call, so that's who you'll be. If he ever broke up with Claire to be with you, then who do you think will be his next booty call? How can you ever trust him?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 09:45 PM
    Jake2008
    Your question, "can two friends survive after having a sexual relationship", is, in my opinion, no.

    It is a shame that when he tested the waters with you, asking for that first kiss, and admitting he had feelings for you that way, but, you went along with it. At that moment, you sacrificed your long friendship, as did he, and he also began a journey of deceipt, lying and cheating, against an innocent third party, his girlfriend.

    You could have stopped at any time, but you chose not to. You knew the risks, you knew the consequences, you knew he was a different person than you thought he was, and you also had a pretty good idea how devastated his girlfriend would be if she knew what the two of you were up to behind her back.

    You can change none of that. The history has become that of two secret lovers, on the sly, living a lie. And this will get you nowhere.

    You have lost your friend, and I hope you dump him as your lover. Vow to never cheat with any man, under any circumstances. You can only control yourself, you cannot control him, nor can you change him. He will never be the same person to you as he was, before that first kiss.

    I think it is fair to say that most people make mistakes in judgment and do things they regret. It is all a part of growing up. In my opinion, it is time for you to see the truth of what has happened, and remove yourself from this three way thing that's going on.

    Leave him to make his decisions with his own conscience, accept what has happened as a bad experience for all concerned, and don't let history repeat itself.
  • Aug 13, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Kitkat22

    I'm afraid not. There is a fine line you cross when you have sex with a friend.

    It's never the same.

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