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  • Aug 13, 2010, 01:49 AM
    morgaine300
    New Lateral Thinking Puzzle
    I decided to start a new thread cause ones that get really, really long start making me nutso after a while. This one shouldn't be as difficult as the albatross one was. (But I didn't say it was easy.)

    I flipped the tent flap open and surveyed the scene.

    On the floor, in the center of the tent, a man lay dead from self-inflicted gunshot wounds.
    In the corner of the tent was a small cot.
    A package of cigarettes and an empty whiskey bottle lay on the bedside table next to the kerosene lamp.

    The only other items I found at the scene were 6 small circular wooden disks under the cot, the man's personal effects, and a variety of scrapbooks and news clippings. I found the last items strange as the suicide victim was completely illiterate.

    What was the reason for the suicide?


    Remember, yes or no questions ONLY. The answers are yes, no and irrelevant. Please try to watch out for assumptions about stuff that has not be established. (And "or" questions are difficult.)
  • Aug 13, 2010, 01:51 AM
    J_9

    Did you find the gun?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 02:01 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Did you find the gun?

    Irrelevant but it was probably lying right there. (Off to a good start. :p)
  • Aug 13, 2010, 02:46 AM
    J_9

    Were the scrapbooks and paper clippings related to him or anyone in his family? Meaning, was there a pattern?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 01:44 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Were the scrapbooks and paper clippings related to him or anyone in his family? Meaning, was there a pattern?

    Yes to the first part. But I'm not sure what you mean by a pattern, though it isn't likely important.
  • Aug 13, 2010, 03:12 PM
    J_9

    Were the clippings about him?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 04:48 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Were the clippings about him?

    Yes. (Though it's reasonable some were about someone(s) else.)
  • Aug 13, 2010, 04:59 PM
    J_9

    Were some about a girlfriend?
  • Aug 13, 2010, 06:59 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Were some about a girlfriend?

    No.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 12:07 PM
    Unknown008

    Didn't see this thread until now :o

    Were there comprehensible words in the scrapbook?

    Did you know the man?
  • Aug 17, 2010, 02:54 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Didn't see this thread until now :o
    Hey, welcome to my world. Hope your recent homework didn't drag you down too much.

    Quote:

    Were there comprehensible words in the scrapbook?
    Is that what you meant to ask? Comprehensible, as in understandable? Um, what words are in the scrapbook, or even if, isn't really relevant anyway.

    Quote:

    Did you know the man?
    Irrelevant. (I don't even know who "I" am in the scenario.)
  • Aug 18, 2010, 07:46 AM
    Unknown008

    Well, then I'm forced to ask how did you know the dead was completely illiterate if "you" (as the author) didn't know him?

    Ok, back to the game...

    Did the man really commit suicide?
    Could it be that it was someone else who killed the man and 'you' thought it was suicide?
    Were the news clippings about the a particular person in each case?
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:02 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Well, then I'm forced to ask how did you know the dead was completely illiterate if "you" (as the author) didn't know him?
    Uh, uh... I'm a cop investigating the death and someone who knew him told me?

    Ok, back to the game...

    Quote:

    Did the man really commit suicide?
    Yes.

    Quote:

    Could it be that it was someone else who killed the man and 'you' thought it was suicide?
    No.

    Quote:

    Were the news clippings about the a particular person in each case?
    Not sure what you mean by "in each case". Is there more than one case? But otherwise yes.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:20 PM
    morgaine300

    OK, I had to go check what had already been established about the news clippings, and I see it's already been asked if they were about him, and that I said yes but there reasonably could be ones about other person or persons.

    Don't make too much out of that. For the moment just assume they were about the dead guy. There don't have to be any about anyone else - and therefore it's obviously not necessary to solving it.

    (In fact, look elsewhere. You won't guess the clippings, and the fact that they exist will suffice.)
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:24 PM
    aimee_tt

    Is there a baby involved (cot)
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:55 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aimee_tt View Post
    Is there a baby involved (cot)

    No.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 07:11 AM
    Unknown008

    Did the tent belong to the dead man?
  • Aug 19, 2010, 07:45 AM
    adam_89

    Did the man not like what he saw in the paper?

    Did the papers have to do with his suicide?

    Was the man camping alone?

    Did anybody witness it?

    Were the scrapbooks his?

    Did the wooden disks have anything to do with anything?

    Did he do something bad in his life?

    Did someone want him dead?

    Was he a convict?

    Was he ever in jail?

    Did he have family?

    Did any of his friends or family die?
  • Aug 19, 2010, 08:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Did the wooden disks have anything to do with anything?

    I don`t know this one (puzzle) but I`m willing to bet they have a lot to do with it. We have to figure out what they actually are.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:39 AM
    adam_89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don`t know this one (puzzle) but I`m willing to bet they have a lot to do with it. We have to figure out what they actually are.

    I have no clue on what a wooden disk is, but I found it strange seeing it. Now the long wait to have my questions answered.

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