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Pitbulls fighting

Why are they doing this to pitbulls its turcher!!

Sick, demented people with no lives and little... brains.

There are illegal groups that gamble on the dogs fighting,its for money,that's why.

It does not make it right by any means,but cruelty to animals,example,coursing,puppy farms,battery(sp) hens have all been around for a long time.

If you know of someone who is fighting dogs my advice would be to report them to the police.

Disgusting, pathetic excuses for human beings. No morals, and no brains, just total waste of human parts.

Because it makes money - if nobody bet, if nobody went to a dog fight, there would be no such industry.

Same with bullfighting, cockfighting, any other illegal activity.

The dogs were created for dog fighting. That's what they were made to do. Dog fighting was legal, but then animal activists stepped in and called it cruel.

Its not right.. Its not OK.. Its sick and horrible. Unfortunately it will never end.

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Originally Posted by Lucky098

The dogs were created for dog fighting. Thats what they were made to do. Dog fighting was legal, but then animal activists stepped in and called it cruel.

Its not right.. Its not ok.. Its sick and horrible. Unfortunately it will never end.

I don't know that animal activists stepped in and called it cruel.

I think people "stepped in" and called it cruel... because it is. You don't have to be an activist to think so. Ever investigate a dog fight ring? Ever seen the dogs up close and personal? I have. It's not pretty and the photos don't do it justice.

When I saw the ring the losing dogs were drowned, also for the pleasure f the spectators.

Again - animal activists didn't call it cruel. They brought it to the attention of other people who saw it for what it is.

Suffering by anything or anybody for the pleasure of others? That's sick.

Gladiators were a sick "business."

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

I don't know that animal activists stepped in and called it cruel.

I think people "stepped in" and called it cruel ... because it is. You don't have to be an activist to think so. Ever investigate a dog fight ring? Ever seen the dogs up close and personal? I have. It's not pretty and the photos don't do it justice.

When I saw the ring the losing dogs were drowned, also for the pleasure f the spectators.

Again - animal activists didn't call it cruel. They brought it to the attention of other people who saw it for what it is.

Suffering by anything or anybody for the pleasure of others? That's sick.

Gladiators were a sick "business."

And what makes things worse, now people want to kill the breed off because of some punk gangbangers that want to fight dogs. I feel bad for the pits... or any other fighting breed. We created them, praised them for what they did... and now we want to kill them off because of what we created. I hate it.. absolutely hate it.

Never saw the actual rings or fighting dogs, but during rescue, we got a few bait dogs in. Completely traumatized and of other dogs and various shaped objects.. all marked up... poor babies :(

Is there a specific reason for the 'question' or is it designed to begin a 'discussion'? In other words, do you really want a history lesson?

My smaller dog was a teaser dog, not a bait dog, and she certainly has "issues."

People who have no feelings for anything. Poor Dogs.. they have a higher IQ then the ones who breed them to fight.

I just wanted to correct something. Pit bulls were created to heard cows and sheep. They go for the nose of the animal to keep it from straying. Then some sick people figured out how to turn this instinct in to a sick sport.

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Originally Posted by mrshodges

i just wanted to correct something. Pit bulls were created to heard cows and sheep. They go for the nose of the animal to keep it from straying. Then some sick people figured out how to turn this instinct in to a sick sport.

Please post your source. My understanding is that they were bred to fight bulls and bears in England, a favorite "sport" of many Kings, including Henry VIII.

In fact - "His ancestors were brought to the United States in the mid - 1800's by Boston-Irish immigrants. Originally bred from a variety of bulldogs and terriers, American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog. Bull baiting was banned in England in 1835 and these dogs are no longer being bred to fight. There is some complication in registries of this breed. The AKC considers the American Staffordshire Terrier as separate and distinct from the American Pit Bull Terrier, yet the UKC will register both as American Pit Bull Terriers (APBTs)." American Pit Bull Terrier

I'm a liability investigator; I've testified as to the results of my investigation, the origin of my photos; listened to a breeder as well as a Vet on more than one occasion (when it's been a horrific attack); the above is what I have heard and what I understand.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Please post your source. My understanding is that they were bred to fight bulls and bears in England, a favorite "sport" of many Kings, including Henry VIII.

In fact - "His ancestors were brought to the United States in the mid - 1800's by Boston-Irish immigrants. Originally bred from a variety of bulldogs and terriers, American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog. Bull baiting was banned in England in 1835 and these dogs are no longer being bred to fight. There is some complication in registries of this breed. The AKC considers the American Staffordshire Terrier as separate and distinct from the American Pit Bull Terrier, yet the UKC will register both as American Pit Bull Terriers (APBTs)." American Pit Bull Terrier

I'm a liability investigator; I've testified as to the results of my investigation, the origin of my photos; listened to a breeder as well as a Vet on more than one occasion (when it's been a horrific attack); the above is what I have heard and what I understand.

We are both right. Look in the 15th paragraph.

Pit Bull Breed History -- Pitbull

I would paste it bit it says not to. When they first came to America that was the use. But you are correct when first created they were protectors then fight dogs. That link list a lot of great info.

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Originally Posted by Cat1864

Is there a specific reason for the 'question' or is it designed to begin a 'discussion'? In other words, do you really want a history lesson?

Apparently the question is both - a discussion and a history lesson.

Either way if ONE person learns SOMETHING about dog fighting, the thread is worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Apparently the question is both - a discussion and a history lesson.

Either way if ONE person learns SOMETHING about dog fighting, the thread is worthwhile.

I totally agree!

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Apparently the question is both - a discussion and a history lesson.

Either way if ONE person learns SOMETHING about dog fighting, the thread is worthwhile.

I agree! Had to spread the rep.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Apparently the question is both - a discussion and a history lesson.

Either way if ONE person learns SOMETHING about dog fighting, the thread is worthwhile.

That's why I kept it here. Hopefully someone will read our thoughts on the issue as well as the facts about dog fighting.

Any objections about it being in dogs, let me know and I'll move it to a discussion forum.

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Originally Posted by shazamataz

That's why I kept it here. Hopefully someone will read our thoughts on the issue as well as the facts about dog fighting.

Any objections about it being in dogs, let me know and I'll move it to a discussion forum.

I have no problems with history lessons or personal opinions about those involved. I just want to make certain that there isn't a specific 'they' that the op is concerned about. Making certain that the op gets the information he/she needs.

For example: In the past few weeks, a ring was closed down in my region. It has led to comments/questions like the op's on the local news' message boards. An interesting thought about 'what goes around comes around', one of the people arrested and charged died a week after the arrest in a car wreck.

I agree This is a big issue and people need to know the truth and the history. These dogs are only viloent when made to be.