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  • Jun 14, 2010, 07:03 AM
    mudweiser
    How to introduce kitten to bunny?
    So I got Rachel a bunny over the weekend. I'm not a bunny expert.

    1) I know I should get a cage, I'm getting one
    2) How do I get my cat to stop scaring it and chasing it around the house? She keeps "pawing" at her
    3) What should I feed it? What are the basics? Ahh I could just Google that or ask the pet store..

    Anywhozzils anything helps.
  • Jun 14, 2010, 07:04 AM
    mudweiser
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    So I got Rachel a bunny over the weekend. I'm a bunny non expert.

    1) I know I should get a cage, I'm getting one
    2) How do I get my cat to stop scaring it and chasing it around the house? She keeps "pawing" at her
    3) What should I feed it? What are the basics? Ahh I could just google that or ask the pet store..

    Anywhozzils anything helps.

    Oh and his name is Fox... and the kitten, her name is Camille.
  • Jun 14, 2010, 10:40 PM
    Alty

    Read my sticky Muddy.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...it-278170.html

    I've owned rabbits all my life. I've also had cats. Cats and rabbits don't mix. Cats are predators. Rabbits are prey. It can work, but it's not a sure thing, and chances are, even if they appear to be best of friends, one day you may come in to a dead rabbit, and your cat finishing off a late afternoon snack of rabbit feet.

    Rabbits are not easy pets to own, they require special care, a person that knows what they need and how to care for them. They are not a pet that you buy on a whim, without so much as housing in place.

    So many people, go to the pet store, see the cute little bunny, decide they have to have it, take it home, and for a while all is well, until the rabbits hits sexual maturity (at around 6 months) and they realize that it's going to cost around $300 or more to get it fixed and stop the spraying and aggression that the rabbit is now exhibiting.

    Then they realize that if they don't clean the cage every day, it can smell, so bunny get's an outdoor hutch, where he's often neglected, or plain forgotten. The owner doesn't realize that these are social creatures. If they don't have a bunny buddy, then they need to have someone else to spend time with. Also, rabbits that are wild dig tunnels and live in groups. There's no concern of freezing in the winter or boiling in the summer. An outdoor hutch is not adequate.

    You could ask the pet store, but I've never met a pet store employee that knew anything about rabbits. When I bought Cotton, the so called rabbit expert at the pet store told me that Cotton was a girl. Well if that's true, then neutering him was a big mistake. ;)

    Rabbits aren't a pet you buy on a whim, but you have, and now you have to get the necessary supplies, the right food, shelter, accessories, to make him happy and healthy.

    I'm here if you have any questions.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 02:32 AM
    shazamataz

    Ohhh dear.

    I did just what you did muddy... bought a bunny from a pet store because I thought it was cute.
    I didn't have a cage or anything for him when I first got him, but I thought "oh well, can't be that hard"

    Within a few days he had chewed through the fish tank heater cable and killed about $3000 worth of my parents tropical fish. Tore up the carpet and peed everywhere.

    He became an outdoor bunny.

    He was 5 when he died... he got myxomatosis which is transmitted by mosquitoes. If he had have been inside it probably would never have happened.

    Fast track a few years and I got another bunny... this time I did everything right, I researched before I bought one, made sure everything was bunny proofed and had a proper cage setup indoors.

    Then I met Alty LOL Wow, I thought I knew a lot about bunnies... I didn't.
    I never even knew it was possible to get a rabbit desexed, let alone that it was necessary.

    They aren't easy pets, and I really wish pet store employees were more educated or I probably would never have been allowed to buy Jack in the first place when I was about 12.

    1) I like the cages that are on stands, with plastic bottoms and wire sides/lid. You will probably need either a bunny proof room or a puppy play pen so it can have some free-run time each day.

    2) Rabbits are food to cats. Keep them separated. They might be friends now, but one day the kitten will grow up and see food instead of a playmate.

    3) I feed Dora a mixture of pellets, grains and chaff, about a cup a day. On top of that a variety of vegetables. Fruits should only be given as treats as they are quite high in natural sugars.
    Hay should be given freely all the time. Bunnies pretty much need to constantly eat, and hay won't make them fat like free-feeding pellets would... plus hay wears their teeth down.

    The rest is in Altys sticky ;)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:06 AM
    mudweiser

    Uh no. I didn't buy Fox. A lady down the road from me, her bunny had babies and she was just going to release them all into "the wild". Yeah nice big city to get killed. So I took one home with me, because well I couldn't take them all.

    Anyway thanks for the tips guys.

    As for the neutering/spaying, both animals are getting that done once the rabbit is old enough to do so. I think it's about 1-2 months old. If I didn't have money to spay/neuter I wouldn't have gotten a pet to begin with.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:17 PM
    Alty
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    Originally Posted by mudweiser View Post
    Uh no. I didn't buy Fox. A lady down the road from me, her bunny had babies and she was just going to release them all into "the wild". Yeah nice big city to get killed. So I took one home with me, because well I couldn't take them all.

    Anyways thanks for the tips guys.

    As for the neutering/spaying, both animals are getting that done once the rabbit is old enough to do so. I think it's about 1-2 months old. If I didn't have money to spay/neuter I wouldn't have gotten a pet to begin with.

    When you do get the bunny spayed/neutered, make sure to shop around for a vet that knows about bunnies. They're considered exotic pets, as such, most vets have no idea. Desexing a bunny is not the same as desexing a cat or a dog, you really need to know what you're doing. If you need help searching for a bunny vet, let me know, I can help.

    How many bunnies did this lady have? I'm shocked! Domesticated rabbits cannot live in the wild, especially babies.

    Although I do think researching is good before bringing a pet home, I have to say that I probably would have done the same thing, and worried about supplies later. Having said that, would you consider a second bunny from that lady? Your bunny will do better with a friend. They're very social creatures. If they're from the same litter and still really young, they'll bond very well. Just make sure to separate them when they reach maturity, otherwise you'll be the one with bunnies to sell. ;)

    Anything you want to know, I'm here. I can help you find a cage, give you a list of foods you can and can't feed, help you with toys, homemade and not.

    Just let me know what you need help with. :)
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:10 AM
    mudweiser
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    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    When you do get the bunny spayed/neutered, make sure to shop around for a vet that knows about bunnies. They're considered exotic pets, as such, most vets have no idea. Desexing a bunny is not the same as desexing a cat or a dog, you really need to know what you're doing. If you need help searching for a bunny vet, let me know, I can help.

    Done done and now just waiting for them to be old enough to get desexed.

    Quote:

    How many bunnies did this lady have? I'm shocked! Domesticated rabbits cannot live in the wild, especially babies.
    I only saw 4 babies in her yard at that time.

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    Although I do think researching is good before bringing a pet home, I have to say that I probably would have done the same thing, and worried about supplies later. Having said that, would you consider a second bunny from that lady? Your bunny will do better with a friend. They're very social creatures.
    Ooh I don't think I could afford to spay/neuter THREE pets.:eek: That would be pushing it Alty. It'd be nice to get him a friend but maybe further down the road. The bunny really isn't alone, except for at night. During the day, me and Rachel and the animals are outside and we all basically play together, and the bunny does get a lot of human attention.
    But it won't be until a little later until I can get him a playmate.

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    Anything you want to know, I'm here. I can help you find a cage, give you a list of foods you can and can't feed, help you with toys, homemade and not.
    1- I got a cage for inside. It's one of those big metal cages. I know the bottom part is bad for the bunnies feet so I'm just going to get the bottom welded off so that Fox doesn't hop around on that wire. The bin thing at the bottom would be filled with wood chips :o And no the bunny isn't in that cage yet, I'm getting the bottom welded off first.

    Okay I have : Tomatoes, Cucumbers, Carrots (a lot of them) AND Beans. Those are the things bunnies CANNOT eat.

    Are they able to eat plain (uncooked) oatmeal? Not loads of it but like a little pile? Just wondering... I got the Timothy Hay yesterday, Fox seemed to enjoy that. I also gave it Raisins, a little piece of Apple, Dandilions, Weeds and greens.

    As for toys let me know: he seems to like going into one of my shoe boxes and playing with the cardboard sides.

    Anyways-- let me know if you have any other tips for me!

    Thanks!
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:35 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    Pictures! More pictures!
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:36 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    My friends bunny really likes clover.
  • Jun 16, 2010, 09:25 AM
    mudweiser
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    Pictures! More pictures!

    Here is one and Rachel with the bunny.

    I don't understand the whole kids in photos thing:confused: Uh she's well dressed and umm... yeah.

    EDIT: I guess I'll just hardcore edit it.
  • Jun 16, 2010, 11:50 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    Cute, but what do you mean about kids in photo's?
  • Jun 17, 2010, 11:45 AM
    mudweiser

    I don't even know. I came in here a while ago and they were talking about removing children's photos from the site. I never knew what happened.. no one really told me why. Obviously you don't want to post photos of children taking a bath or in a swimsuit...
  • Jun 17, 2010, 07:04 PM
    Alty

    I think it's just to protect them. If we post our pics, that's our choice as adults, but they don't get to make the choice.

    I had tons of pics up of my kids too. I didn't see any harm, but I can see their point and I'm not unhappy that they removed the pics. You covered R's face, so you should be fine. ;)

    How's the bunny baby doing? Did you get a chance to remove the grate from the cage?

    I also have an enclosure for my rabbits, so they can hop around without worrying about the dogs eating them.

    Here's a picture.

    Attachment 31563

    It's actually a dog enclosure, around $30 depending on where you get it, but I've seen them on Kijiji and other sites.
  • Jun 17, 2010, 07:20 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mudweiser View Post
    Here is one and Rachel with the bunny.

    I don't understand the whole kids in photos thing:confused: Uh she's well dressed and umm... yeah.

    But she may not stay that way after someone not so nice tweaks the picture and puts her in a porn magazine.
  • Jun 18, 2010, 05:46 AM
    mudweiser
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    But she may not stay that way after someone not so nice tweaks the picture and puts her in a porn magazine.

    Holy sh!t I did not know that at ALL.

    Ugh I feel sick.
  • Jun 18, 2010, 05:53 AM
    mudweiser

    Back to Bunnies:

    1- Thanks for the tip Alty, but I don't think I'll have a that wrap around cagey thing in my house. I let it roam free when Camille is outside doin' her own thing. I'm not getting it because it honestly would eat the space that I have left.

    2- The welding off the bottom of the wire cage is happening this weekend :)

    Questions:

    •Fox ALWAYS seems to find a way to eat Camille's food. I ALWAYS have Fox's food fresh and ready and he'll finish it all and sooner than later I see him eating Camille's Meow Mix :eek:
    -what can I do? Is it bad for him?

    •Can I put a "litter box" for Fox? Would he be able to understand that when he roams around the house he goes poop and pee in the box of wood chips? How do I get him to do that?

    •Do bunnies have bad vision or something? Just wondering..

    •What kind of chew toys do I get Fox? She hasn't been playing with old books and paper towel rolls.

    *I still don't know what sex Fox is... that's why I keep calling him a he or sometimes a she. Lol
  • Jun 18, 2010, 02:48 PM
    Wondergirl
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    2- The welding off of the bottom of the wire cage is happening this weekend

    Make sure all sharp, pointy edges have been filed flat.
  • Jun 21, 2010, 07:24 AM
    mudweiser
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    Make sure all sharp, pointy edges have been filed flat.

    No worries WG it was filed to the flattest of flat.

    Here is a photo of Fox in his cage :)

    It feels like I need to put more stuff in it but what? Any suggestions?

    Thanks
  • Jun 21, 2010, 10:09 AM
    Alty

    That's a nice cage Muddy. Where did you get it?

    Just fyi, it's probably better to fill the litter box with litter, not wood. If it's wood then Fox will likely use it as a bed and pee and poo in another corner.

    You can buy a bunny litter box. The difference is that it's triangle shaped, fits in a corner. Don't get a big one, just big enough for Fox to sit in, that way he'll be less likely to use it as a bed. Watch him, rabbits usually pick one corner to do their thing. When you see where he's going, simply put the litter box in that corner, pick up some of his poo and place it in the box, and if he's inclined to litter train, it should be fairly easy. Rabbits are very clean little animals, so most prefer not to have their waste all over.

    As for toys, there are tons of things you can get. A salt like and grinding stone are a must. The salt is good for their diet, and the grinding stone helps keep their teeth filed. Rabbits teeth grow constantly. If they're not ground down, it can cause health problems. Rabbits can keep them ground down with the proper tools. If not, then you'll have to go to your vet to get the teeth ground.

    Go to a bigger pet store, one with pet supplies only. You can buy a cardboard hideyhole. They're cheap, look like a tube, but bunny can fit inside. This provides a place to get away (rabbits like to have a covered area) and it's good to chew on, relieve stress.

    Put newspaper in his cage. He may not go for it right away, but he will eventually. I've never seen a bunny that ignores the chance to chew up newspaper.

    There are bunny toys you can buy, just be careful of a few things. No artificial dyes. If the toy is natural material and colored, then it's not good for bunny. Small parts that can be broken off should be avoided. Plastic or rubber is a bad idea. Try to stick with cardboard toys, or wood toys.

    I'll do a Google check, post some pictures of bunny safe toys. :)
  • Jun 21, 2010, 10:15 AM
    mudweiser

    Oooh! Thank you so much alty!!

    I actually got the cage from a recycling center here in my city.. it was free :)

    As for the wood chips, he's been poopin' & peeing on that side of the cage-- do you REALLY think I need to get the litter? That seems to work. I will get that stone at the pet store tomorrow and that hidey hole thinger.

    Merci beaucoup!!

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