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  • Jun 5, 2010, 12:44 PM
    excon
    Birth / Death
    Hello:

    Was I dead before I was alive?

    excon
  • Jun 5, 2010, 12:47 PM
    NeedKarma
    No. That is all.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:32 PM
    Clough
    Hi, excon!

    That would depend on what a person considers to be "dead", and perhaps even "alive".

    How would you define "dead", please?

    Thanks!
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:57 PM
    hheath541

    If death is the absence of life, and there is no life before conception, then there must be death before conception.

    However, if life preexists death, then death cannot preexist life.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:58 PM
    ScottGem

    Umm, you're alive? <eg>
  • Jun 5, 2010, 05:30 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Depending on your faith, you may have been my great aunt, or by some thoughs how do you know you are alive now.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 06:49 PM
    JoeCanada76

    I believe that we are always alive. There is no before or after. There is just constant of being in one form or another..
  • Jun 9, 2010, 01:43 PM
    ebaines

    If something doesn't exist, and has never existed, it can be neither dead nor alive. You did not exist prior to your being conceived by your parents. Your mother had one piece of what would eventually become you, and your father another piece, but separately they were not "you." Therefore, you were neither dead nor alive prior to that moment in time. So the period of your being alive was not preceded by being dead, but rather was preceded by nothing.

    At least that's my take on it.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:35 PM
    redhed35

    Dead means the absence of life,you have to be alive before you die,physically anyway,so physically you did not exist before you were conceived.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:46 PM
    JoeCanada76

    The thing is I am talking spiritually. We are always alive I believe. Even before being conceived.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:50 PM
    redhed35
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    The thing is I am talking spiritually. We are always alive I believe. Even before being conceived.

    I believe in soul and spirit too,but I could not pinpoint the beginning of soul or spirit,too many theories and not enough head space.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:51 PM
    excon

    Hello again,

    Am I my body?

    excon
  • Jun 9, 2010, 03:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    I believe the person that is excon, the essence of excon, the qualities that tell me it is excon and not hheath or Curleyben or J_9, are always alive. Many religions call that the "soul" or "spirit" of a person. Your parents created the physical (the twinkly blue eyes and the right-handedness and the curly hair, etc.) excon, but how that got matched up with the spirit part to make the complete excon package, I have no idea. I also believe even though the physical part will die, the spirit part continues to exist.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 03:15 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    continues to exist.

    Hello again, WG:

    Was my spirit dead before it existed?

    excon
  • Jun 9, 2010, 03:25 PM
    JoeCanada76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, WG:

    Was my spirit dead before it existed?

    excon

    No,
  • Jun 9, 2010, 03:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, WG:

    Was my spirit dead before it existed?

    excon

    I said, "I believe the person that is excon, the essence of excon, the qualities that tell me it is excon and not hheath or Curleyben or J_9, are always alive."

    I believe your spirit has always existed. Excon was romping around in another dimension before he landed on Earth and AMHD.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 03:44 PM
    JoeCanada76

    Auntie,

    I believe the same thing.
  • Jun 13, 2010, 08:24 AM
    Hone Heke

    Perhaps we might rephrase this question. "Did I exist before I existed?".
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:40 AM
    positiveparent

    The Soul is eternal, and therefore never dies, the body is temporary so does.

    The spark, essence, spiritual aspect of us is timeless, spaceless and deathless.
  • Jun 16, 2010, 06:47 AM
    JoeCanada76

    I would like to add, the thought that. We have always existed... There was no beginning and no end. God has always been and we have always been part of God.

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