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  • Mar 26, 2010, 03:54 AM
    KBC
    Tanning tax
    I frequent a tanning spa during the winter months, signed their petition which fell on deaf ears and now I am wondering what the outcome is going to be for her shop?

    The tax,basically focuses on middle class women,as they are the ones to most frequent the tanning beds.

    With this new tax,the clients will have to pay more for the service, this will either drive down the profit(if the owner tries to keep the tax from driving her prices too high,especially in this recession),or the price will simply become more than the middle class are willing to pay, effectively driving her out of business.

    Any thoughts, ideas for her, is there just another small business going down with this tax and more on the unemployment rolls?
  • Mar 26, 2010, 04:39 AM
    Catsmine

    Sorry to go off-topic, but I can't shake this image of Pelosi with a Twilight "glow." It's just more political money-grabbing to pay for junkets and union votes.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 04:42 AM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Sorry to go off-topic, but I can't shake this image of Pelosi with a Twilight "glow." It's just more political money-grabbing to pay for junkets and union votes.

    HAHAHA,, Pelosi needs a little less tan, she doesn't really look healthy does she")
  • Mar 26, 2010, 05:17 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    I frequent a tanning spa during the winter months,,signed their petition which fell on deaf ears and now I am wondering what the outcome is going to be for her shop?

    The tax,basically focuses on middle class women,as they are the ones to most frequent the tanning beds.

    With this new tax,the clients will have to pay more for the service,,this will either drive down the profit(if the owner tries to keep the tax from driving her prices too high,especially in this recession),or the price will simply become more than the middle class are willing to pay,,effectively driving her out of business.

    Any thoughts,,ideas for her,,is there just another small business going down with this tax and more on the unemployment rolls?

    In this market diversity is important, we all know tanning can have a down side so this is why there is a tax on it, so there has to be other ways of delivering the product which after all is a tanned skin, so she should look at a chemical solution or new products for skin care. Who knows being forced to diversify could be a great thing for the business. But if the government places a tax on something it isn't for the seller to try and absorb it, that is bad thinking but look for the add on, the extra service or new product, how about hydro therepy, It's amazing than in the west a dark skin is considered beautiful and in the east a light skin is considered beautiful
  • Mar 26, 2010, 05:18 AM
    tomder55

    The more people read what was actually passed the more they are going to find how intrusive this new law is. Tanning salons are low hanging fruit . Most people don't use them and will shrug their shoulders when they find out that these businesses shut down.

    A 10% tax is punative... like King George's tea tax.
    But if the goal is to help fund this $$$ sucking government takeover then it will backfire. They can't very well collect taxes from 'out of business' enterprises. If the goal is to prevent people from getting an artificial tan because they believe there are negative health consequences then you can expect the nanny-state to take other measures to control people's activities also . Ironically.. the information about the dangers related to tanning with UV is out there and it has already impacted the industry. The tax probably will be the coup de grace .

    Madame Mimi Pelosi may be exempt because she may apply tanning spray . Only places using the UVs will be screwed. I haven't checked about other vanity procedures like face lifts . If Pelosi has one more she won't be able to close her eyes .
  • Mar 26, 2010, 06:26 AM
    speechlesstx

    It's actually discriminatory as I'm sure the vast majority of clients are Caucasian.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 06:34 AM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's actually discriminatory as I'm sure the vast majority of clients are Caucasian.

    Vast?? ALL!!

    If any of us had this business what would you do to insure you didn't go out of business? Any ideas?
  • Mar 26, 2010, 06:50 AM
    speechlesstx

    Ain't no way to insure it, tanning salons are just another plague on society as tom noted.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 07:07 AM
    tomder55

    I don't have any good advice .Maybe some solice in that they are not alone . Tanning salons are mom and pop operations . Much larger corporations who have larger impacts on society are going to feel the pain and have a bigger impact.

    Already heavy equipment makers John Deere and Caterpillar have announced to deaf ears how this law will impact their businesses.
    Both companies ;US export success stories ,and major employers, have announced huge increases in operating expenses directly due to the law's impact. $100 million in increased costs for 2011for Caterpillar and $150 million in increased costs for 2010 for John Deere.

    Worse still is these increases will continue to rise as these companies expand hiring if this country ever comes out of this economic downturn giving them a huge disincentive to hiring more employees.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 08:00 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    The tax,basically focuses on middle class women,as they are the ones to most frequent the tanning beds.

    Any thoughts,,ideas for her,,is there just another small business going down with this tax and more on the unemployment rolls?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    HAHAHA,,,Pelosi needs a little less tan, she doesn't really look healthy does she")

    Hello K:

    I like to be brown too, but I let the sun do it. The UNSAID stuff here, (and I find that remarkable) is that tanning beds cause cancer. I don't know WHY nobody mentioned it? Maybe because it doesn't fit an agenda.

    No, it doesn't bother me at all, that this little neighborhood business is forced to quit.

    excon

    PS> Pelosi is 70 years old! You better hope you look that good at 70.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 08:33 AM
    tomder55

    Actually I did mention the negative health consequences. Do you wear sunscreen ? The UV exposure happens under the sun too.

    But wearing sunscreen is a double edged sword. Too many people are vt. D deficient because the vit D you absorb outdoors is also blocked.

    Let's face the facts... living is hazardous to your health.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 09:56 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Let's face the facts ....living is hazardous to your health.

    Actually there's only one fatal condition - Birth!
  • Mar 26, 2010, 01:08 PM
    KBC
    Pelosi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post

    PS> Pelosi is 70 years old! You better hope you look that good at 70.

    I really don't WANT to live to 70, she can have that to herself(too many bad drugs,, :( )
  • Mar 26, 2010, 01:32 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Tanning beds are akin to placing oneself in a microwave oven. The damage they do to the human body is remarkable. If you have any cancer in your body tanning beds accelerate it or exacerbate it. Anyone fool enough to put their body into a tanning bed gets what they deserve for their vanity. I believe the tanning bed tax will winnow out these bad "health" fads quicker than if they were to die a natural death. As far as mom and pop companies they should have invested their money in a different business as I have no sympathy for them foisting this craze or fad upon the American populace.

    As for Pelosi - I'm sure she's had to fork out plenty of money at the makeup artist and hairdresser who makes her up every day. And her plastic surgeon as well. I've never really seen a close up of this woman either. It's always from at least 5 feet away minimum or the photo is blown up (and retouched of course). She's probably a real hag in person if you stood next to her and gaped at her ugly mug.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 01:39 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Tanning beds are akin to placing oneself in a microwave oven. The damage they do to the human body is remarkable. If you have any cancer in your body tanning beds accelerate it or exacerbate it. Anyone fool enough to put their body into a tanning bed gets what they deserve for their vanity. I believe the tanning bed tax will winnow out these bad "health" fads quicker than if they were to die a natural death. As far as mom and pop companies they should have invested their money in a different business as I have no sympathy for them foisting this craze or fad upon the American populace.

    As for Pelosi - I'm sure she's had to fork out plenty of money at the makeup artist and hairdresser who makes her up every day. And her plastic surgeon as well. I've never really seen a close up of this woman either. It's always from at least 5 feet away minimum or the photo is blown up (and retouched of course). She's probably a real hag in person if you stood next to her and gaped at her ugly mug.


    So you approve of the nanny state?

    Fine, report for genetic psychological examination at 3 o'clock sharp at either the Public Health office or Democratic Party headquarters.

    The problem with Pelosi is she's had to fork out taxpayer's money, not hers.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 02:44 PM
    earl237

    I personally find women with very light skin more attractive than ones with a dark tan, does anyone else agree? Pin-up girls from the 50s didn't have a dark, fake tan and they looked hot. Tanning beds are so dangerous, I don't know why anyone still uses them, at least with the sun, you get vitamin D.
  • Mar 27, 2010, 08:56 AM
    cdad

    I think what bothers me most about all this is I see it as the first step to a whole new breed of "sin" taxes. It won't be long at this rate that anything deemed "bad" by the goobermint is going to have a new tax attatched. How soon will the fat tax be enacted ?
  • Mar 27, 2010, 09:09 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    How soon will the fat tax be enacted ?

    Hello:

    I too, am fearful of the nanny state telling me how to eat. But, I'm equally fearful of corporate America telling me how to eat. The obesity epidemic is a direct result of that. Don't you think it needs to be countered, even a little bit?

    By the way, do you know how much high fructose corn syrup you eat? That's a brand new food, by the way. It was INVENTED. Do you like INVENTED food? I'm a cook. I NEVER found a recipe that called for that stuff.

    excon
  • Mar 27, 2010, 09:48 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    I too, am fearful of the nanny state telling me how to eat. But, I'm equally fearful of corporate America telling me how to eat. The obesity epidemic is a direct result of that. Don't you think it needs to be countered, even a little bit?

    excon

    The nanny state tells you what you MUST eat, or go to jail and eat it there. Soylent Green is people.

    The corporate state tells you what they will sell you, or you grow your own. I kind of like growing my own.
  • Mar 27, 2010, 09:57 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    The corporate state tells you what they will sell you, or you grow your own. I kinda like growing my own.

    Hello again, Cats:

    That's the right wing schtick, all right... But, when the corporate state controls the means of production, and they do, you buy what they TELL you to buy. That would be the euphemistic you.

    I grow my own too;). But, MOST people in this country shop in the middle isles of their supermarket and eat breakfast at McDonald's. Look, I'm not as pure as I make myself out to be. I LOVE Lipton instant stroganoff noodles, and I'm sure it's packed with all sort of crap.

    excon

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