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  • Mar 23, 2010, 11:20 PM
    Clough
    Writing a Resume. What Do You Think Are the Most Effective Ways of Doing It?
    Hi, All!

    Writing a resume is an art. Some ways of doing it go in and out of vogue. According to your understanding and knowledge, what might be the way to put one together that will be the most attractive and really "catch the eye" of a potential employer in the current times?

    Thanks!
  • Mar 24, 2010, 08:39 AM
    twinkiedooter

    I've read many resumes in my time. There is no real "catchy" way of writing one.

    Some people use the chronological set up.
    Some people use the skills set up.

    The basic thing you need to remember is if you make your resume too hard to figure out just how long you were at your jobs the paper is going to be 86'd in the trashcan as too hard to read. I've seen many good resumes end up there as the person got overly "creative" in how the meat and potatoes information was presented. It was just too hard to figure out.

    Also, you need to remember that your resume is probably going to get 1-2 minutes of "read" time before going on to the next one.

    I never personally cared for all the hobbies and/or outside work organizations a person did or belonged to. That is totally irrelevant to the job being applied for. But try and tell some people that.

    Be sure to pare down your job description or duties. If they want to know exactly what you did, they'll ask at the interview. You don't have to list every picky chore or duty you did there.

    Simplifying always on my resume would garner me an interview.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 11:59 AM
    Clough
    I've formatted quite a few resumes for myself now over the years...

    Some have been functional and others have been chronological.

    I know that it needs to be easy to read and understand. Is there a way to do that which will best show what you can do for a certain position and show what you've done in the past which might be of benefit to a certain position, without the resume being way too long?

    How about we format a fictitious resume here? Might be fun!

    Thanks!
  • Mar 24, 2010, 02:58 PM
    Eileen G

    I would rewrite the resume for each job, and make sure the things that are prominent on it are the things that are relevant to that job.

    For instance, if the job requires a degree in Maths, then put that first. If have that, no employer is going to be too concerned with what grades you got in your Leaving Cert.

    If languages are necessary, then start with all the languages in which you are fluent.

    Make sure that your resume is clear to someone who may not aware of the finer details of education. Often someone relatively junior is given the job of weeding out all the applicants who don't have a degree, for instance. So make sure your resume says "Degree" clearly.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 03:21 PM
    kp2171
    I just went through a long job search, which involved rehashing my resume over and over... I had the luxury of time... no huge rush, but I still wanted to be done sooner than later... took months.

    After getting nowhere I talked to a few HR people who emphasized that they were getting large volumes of applicants...

    One person said they wanted more results based info on the app... less time on duties and more time on what you've done to impact change or get results in the context of what the job is...

    Anybody applying might have my degree and be trained in the same skills. They wanted to hear "i made a difference at this company by doing these things"... and if it was an online form, try to find a space for that in additional comments sections if you cannot get it into the responsibilities section...

    The most maddening thing was finding out the online apps were often useless. Granted, I was looking for areas on the fringe of my previous work... but I ran into the following...

    One local branch of a national company barely used the online application system. Id applied for a position that stayed open for weeks and weeks... when I finally inquired by touching base with a person I knew there, they hadn't even seen my resume.

    Another position id applied for had shelved my resume, deeming me overqualified. Now... I was, to some degree, but it was with a business I was willing to enter a step down to later move up three... so I didn't hear a thing from them until I called and pushed a little.

    So... my experience is focus on results and make inside contacts, network, and call when in doubt. The position I finally accepted was one where I wasn't slated for an interview until I called and asked for one... that lead to a spontaneous phone interview.. which lead to two more in person.

    It is ugly out there right now. I think you need to make some noise.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 03:40 PM
    Wondergirl

    Kp knows what he is talking about. Companies want to know what you have done -- how you have made money or saved money for a business (Accomplishments). I'm guessing ScottGem can add some thoughts to this discussion. And yes, make noise.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 08:47 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eileen G View Post
    I would rewrite the resume for each job, and make sure the things that are prominant on it are the things that are relevant to that job.

    For instance, if the job requires a degree in Maths, then put that first. If have that, no employer is going to be too concerned with what grades you got in your Leaving Cert.

    If languages are necessary, then start with all the languages in which you are fluent.

    Make sure that your resume is clear to someone who may not aware of the finer details of education. Often someone relatively junior is given the job of weeding out all the applicants who don't have a degree, for instance. So make sure your resume says "Degree" clearly.


    Excellent ideas from you, Eileen G! I do try to "gear" my resumes to certain positions. Have been in church music work nearly forty years. When going for a church position that's in music, most of the resume is about that sort of thing and not so much having to do with other positions in other fields.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 08:49 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kp2171 View Post

    it is ugly out there right now. i think you need to make some noise.

    Very very true!
  • Mar 24, 2010, 08:51 PM
    Clough
    So, what about the basic formatting of the resume? Is there a way of doing it that will get the person noticed the most?
  • Mar 24, 2010, 09:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    So, what about the basic formatting of the resume? Is there a way of doing it that will get the person noticed the most?

    Less is more. Resume means summary. You want a clean, easy-to-read one-pager with lots of white space and very concise information that includes keywords important to the particular industry or business.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 09:13 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    So, what about the basic formatting of the resume? Is there a way of doing it that will get the person noticed the most?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Less is more. Resume means summary. You want a clean, easy-to-read one-pager with lots of white space and very concise information that includes keywords important to the particular industry or business.

    Font size and type of font used? Are those also important to consider?

    Two page okay if you've been in the job force for quite awhile? I know that you wrote about it being one page. But, what if you need to be able to show more information but have it be concise and easy to read and look over quickly?

    Thanks!
  • Mar 24, 2010, 10:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Font size and type of font used? Are those also important to consider?

    Two page okay if you've been in the job force for quite awhile? I know that you wrote about it being one page. But, what if you need to be able to show more information but have it be concise and easy to read and look over quickly?

    Font size: 12 point.
    Font: Times New Roman or Arial. Some use Courier, but I wouldn't.

    The resume's purpose is to get you the interview. A two-pager does not catch the eye of an interviewer and is not concise and easy to read and a quick look. I have a three-pager (my complete resume on file) and can make that into a clean, concise one-pager. So can you. Once you get an interview with it, take along your two- or three-pager and give it to the interviewer at the end of the interview to remind him about you and to fill in any chinks.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 10:44 PM
    Clough
    So, what about high points to note in it in order to make it a one pager?

    That's pretty tough for me because of the variety of things that I've done.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 10:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    So, what about high points to note in it in order to make it a one pager?

    Do a functional resume with workplaces notes in a smaller font at the bottom of the page.
    Quote:

    That's pretty tough for me because of the variety of things that I've done.
    Pshaw! Piece a cake! I've got tons of variety on mine, and I did it. Think functions.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 11:46 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    So, what about high points to note in it in order to make it a one pager?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Do a functional resume with workplaces notes in a smaller font at the bottom of the page.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    That's pretty tough for me because of the variety of things that I've done.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Pshaw! Piece a cake! I've got tons of variety on mine, and I did it. Think functions.
    Do you think that we could put together a fictitious example here?
  • Mar 24, 2010, 11:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Do you think that we could put together a ficticious example here?

    Of course!--as long as we spell everything correctly (as a good example). Fictitious is spelled fictitious.
  • Mar 24, 2010, 11:57 PM
    Clough
    Okay, let's have a go at that! Doesn't all have to be done tonight though.

    How about one that is about a former school teacher who has also been a musician?

    Thoughts, please?
  • Mar 25, 2010, 12:10 AM
    Wondergirl

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  • Mar 25, 2010, 12:15 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Okay, let's have a go at that! Doesn't all have to be done tonight though.

    I just posted a functional one.
  • Mar 27, 2010, 07:38 PM
    Clough
    Carrots as opposed to bullets for the lines?

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