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  • Mar 23, 2010, 02:49 AM
    usrneel
    Standard deduction us-india treaty 2009
    Greeting taxman, I am a non resident alien from india, so I have been filling up the 1040NR form. Now there are 2 simple questions I would like to know and would be grateful if the experts could answer them.

    Q1) I want to know what is the amount for standard deduction for the us-india treaty for 2009. In the 519, chapter 5 IRS publication it only shows the amount for year 2008. I am not able to find the amount for 2009. I read elsewhere on the internet it is $5700. But I would like to know if this is true and is there a document where this present?

    Q2) In 1040NR at the end of the form in L,
    Column (d) for amount exempt under this treaty what should I put here? Since the treaty is only for std deduction and not for exemption, should I put a zero? OR should I put the exemption for non-resident alien, i.e. $3650 ? :confused:
  • Mar 23, 2010, 11:36 PM
    MukatA

    1. $5700
    2. Your treaty deduction or exemption is $5700 as itemized deduction.
  • Mar 26, 2010, 02:58 AM
    usrneel

    Mukat, many thanks for the information.

    now just one more silly question
    In 1040NR, L(c) Number of months claimed in prior tax years.

    Supposed I claimed this treaty for the last 3 years. So I should be putting 3x12 = 36 months?
  • Mar 28, 2010, 10:15 AM
    MukatA

    Start counting from the month you entered U.S. For example, if you entered in August 2007, for 2007 count 5 months.
  • Mar 29, 2010, 02:26 AM
    adssaini
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MukatA View Post
    1. $5700
    2. Your treaty deduction or exemption is $5700 as itemized deduction.

    Hi MukatA,

    What would be the Tax Treaty Article ? Is this is Publication 519, Chapter 5?
  • Mar 29, 2010, 05:18 AM
    MukatA

    Article 21(2)
  • Mar 29, 2010, 10:05 AM
    usrneel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MukatA View Post
    Start counting from the month you entered U.S. For example, if you entered in August 2007, for 2007 count 5 months.

    great thank! This site rocks :D
  • Mar 29, 2010, 10:46 PM
    adssaini

    Hi Mukata,

    Form 1040NR.

    Line 22 $5700
    Line 23 (total from Line 8 to Line 21) $2,183.47
    Line 34 NIL
    Line 35 : $2,183.47
    Line 36: $2,183.47
    Line 37: $5700 ( Here is the issue, $ 2 is deducted as state income tax, where as Page 21 if instructions - (top right corner) states that "Residents of India who were students or business apprentices may be able to take the standard deduction instead of their itemized deductions. See Pub.519 for details"

    Line 40: NIL

    Am I right in claiming standard deduction at Line 37 and also mentioning $5700 at Line 22.

    Or is should be

    Line 22: $2,183.47

    Line 23: NIL


    Or


    Line 22: $5700
    Line 23: Nil


    Or

    Line 22: $2,183.47
    Line 23 (total from Line 8 to Line 21) $2,183.47
    Line 34 NIL
    Line 35 : $2,183.47
    Line 36: $2,183.47
    Line 37: $5700
    Line 40: NIL


    I would be thankful to you.

    Thanks.
  • Mar 31, 2010, 10:17 PM
    adssaini

    Hi Mukata..

    Got stuck with this...
  • Apr 1, 2010, 04:29 AM
    usrneel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adssaini View Post
    Am I right in claiming standard deduction at Line 37 and also mentioning $5700 at Line 22.

    that's what I did. Also you can see in L(e) it has been mentioned to put it 22.
  • Apr 13, 2010, 12:32 AM
    WatchFirefly
    I don't think you can claim at two places, it would mess up the calculation. Mentioning twice would mean, claiming twice, means twice the deduction! CINTAX had prepared my earlier 2008 1040NR-EZ. There, it did not put any amount in the line 6 (Total Wages and scholarship exempt by a treaty from page 2, item J). It put zero there, and put 5450 (2008 std. deduction amount) in line 11 "Itemized Deduction". In form 1040NR, either 22 or 37, you should put it only once.

    I am not a tax expert though.
  • Apr 13, 2010, 12:32 AM
    WatchFirefly
    I don't think you can claim at two places, it would mess up the calculation. Mentioning twice would mean, claiming twice, means twice the deduction! CINTAX had prepared my earlier 2008 1040NR-EZ. There, it did not put any amount in the line 6 (Total Wages and scholarship exempt by a treaty from page 2, item J). It put zero there, and put 5450 (2008 std. deduction amount) in line 11 "Itemized Deduction". In form 1040NR, either 22 or 37, you should put it only once.

    I am not a tax expert though.

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