There's plenty of shy guys, nerds, etc who can't but want a girlfriend. And want sex.

Some of these guys have almost no chance of getting anything, some may even grow old and have nothing. So, is it wrong to just try it out at least once?

Your problem isn't that you are shy or a nerd. You're judgmental and racist and the way you describe going after girls make you sound like a stalker. Have you seriously considered seeking a life coach? I really think you could benefit from the one on one help and guidance.

Yes, it is wrong and it is illegal. You can go to jail for this.

Wouldn't it be better to get help with your self-esteem and social skills. This will benefit you in life generally and not just in terms of getting sex, though that too. There is plenty of advice online on skills you can practice, you can try assertiveness training or life coaching as the above poster suggested.

If you want a relationship with a girl you need to get to know her as a person not just see her as a potential supplier of sex.

I remember a post I read on a computer forum once that said.'hey people think us geeks don't have sex, we do - with other geeks'. - Ie someone who had embraced the kind of person he was and found relationships with girls who shared his interests.

You need to stop seeing yourself so negatively, look at what positives you have and build on them, and stop seeing women as a threat who are only there to provide or withhold sex. They are people and some of them will be lilke you. Get to know some.

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Originally Posted by cozoDOP2

There's plenty of shy guys, nerds, etc who can't but want a gf. and want sex.

Some of these guys have almost no chance of getting anything, some may even grow old and have nothing. So,, is it wrong to just try it out at least once?

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You know so much about these "guys, nerds, etc", are you one of them?

And how can you give odds on them finding love?

Is this the first thing that you've considered doing that was wrong? Do you always ask permission first?

Oh. I mean "they, them".

I agree with a life coach. There is always someone out there for us all. For love, not a sex toy.

JM, check out the OPs other threads... it's very disturbing.

Maybe he is just a bad troll.

I looked at his other threads to and am wondering if he's making a caricature of other posters who have related problems but not as perverse.