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  • Jan 31, 2010, 12:58 PM
    mattpeters
    I have a murray snowthrower model number 621453x31nc with a techumseh that won't start
    It has a techumseh motor model number th139sa 139cc displacement. It is getting spark and I replaced the spark plug with an oe one. The fuel is fresh fuel pre mixed. It is getting both fuel and spark but won't start. I need help as I don't know what could be the problem
  • Jan 31, 2010, 05:45 PM
    crigby

    Hi,
    I show this as a Murray/Scotts made for Home Depot in the Canadian market. Parts breakdown is here:
    http://www.outdoordistributors.com/p...PARTS-LIST.pdf
    Owners manual not found.
    You say it is fresh mix, but was it dumped of bad mix? Is it a float or diaphragm carb? Any numbers or such on engine?
    Peace,
    Clarke
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:25 PM
    mattpeters

    The tank was drained and the mix was completely fresh. Carb is a float carb and I cleaned it out as it was plugged. What numbers do you want the ones for the blower or the motor
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:27 PM
    mattpeters
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crigby View Post
    Hi,
    I show this as a Murray/Scotts made for Home Depot in the Canadian market. Parts breakdown is here:
    http://www.outdoordistributors.com/p...PARTS-LIST.pdf
    Owners manual not found.
    You say it is fresh mix, but was it dumped of bad mix? Is it a float or diaphragm carb? Any numbers or such on engine?
    Peace,
    Clarke

    The tank was drained and the mix was completely fresh. Carb is a float carb and I cleaned it out as it was plugged. What numbers do you want the ones for the blower or the motor
  • Jan 31, 2010, 08:24 PM
    crigby

    Hi,
    I would need engine numbers to look it up.
    Peace,
    Clarke
  • Jan 31, 2010, 08:32 PM
    mattpeters

    Model number is TH139SA
    Engine family is 4TPXS.1395EF
  • Jan 31, 2010, 08:34 PM
    mattpeters
    Also you wouldn't have a diagram of where all the hoses are supposed to go would you it would be greatly appreciated
  • Jan 31, 2010, 10:26 PM
    crigby

    Hi,
    Well a few manuals available:
    http://www.smallenginesuppliers.com/...nformation.pdf.
    And
    http://www.tecumsehpower.com/CustomerService/BSI.pdf
    And
    http://www.smallenginesuppliers.com/...nformation.pdf
    Peace,
    Clarke
    PS The first and last are different!
  • Feb 2, 2010, 08:24 PM
    mattpeters

    OK so I'm still having troubles with the motor. I have tried priming the motor by putting a little bit of fuel into the cylinder but it still won't start. It seems to be flooding the engine and the carb as fuel is spitting out the end of it. One pull on the cord and it seems to flood it. I have adjusted the float and cleaned the carb. It has compression which I have check by plaacing my finger over the sparkplug hole while pulling the cord. Any ideas what I can do next?
  • Feb 2, 2010, 08:36 PM
    KISS

    The fuel valve is sticking in the carb. You may have to dissassemble and clean.

    -or-

    You can try a small amount of gas mixed with Seafoam carb cleaner after draining the tank.

    FYI:
    You can use spray carb cleaner as starting fluid. DO NOT use starting fluid. Gas is Ok, but carb cleaner is better.

    You need to use fuel stabilizer like Sta-bil. 20/20 hindsight.
  • Feb 2, 2010, 08:42 PM
    mattpeters

    OK where abouts is the fuel valve in the carb
  • Feb 2, 2010, 08:45 PM
    mattpeters

    Where abouts is the fuel valve
  • Feb 2, 2010, 08:52 PM
    crigby

    Hi,
    I might point out that the manuals tell you that there is a correct direction for the pointed end of that wire on the inlet needle. It must point toward the air cleaner/air intake.
    Peace,
    Clarke
  • Feb 2, 2010, 09:17 PM
    KISS

    Carb breakdown:

    Go here: Small Engine Specialists | Ariens OEM Parts | Briggs & Stratton OEM Parts | Cub Cadet OEM Parts | Echo OEM Parts | eXmark OEM Parts | Honda Engines OEM Parts | Honda Power Equipment OEM Parts | Husqvarna Power Equipment OEM Parts | Hustler Turf OEM P

    Use 640300 as p/n for the Tecumseh carb and then click on the view ICON on the full right for a carb breakdown.

    Fuel needle is #30 on first carb line.

    Then engine is there also, but not the SPEC number
  • Feb 2, 2010, 09:35 PM
    mattpeters

    OK thanks will let you know if this works
  • Feb 2, 2010, 09:38 PM
    mattpeters
    Do you think there is anything else that might cause it to not start

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