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So I'm on probation and have done a lot of research about smoking pot and how long it takes to get out of the system.

I know there are a lot of variables. I already tested positive once, and don't want to face jail time for smoking a little harmless herb.

I need to test negative before I go to court for violating probation testing positive the first time. I was smoking chronically about a month ago, and in the past month have only smoked a couple times, a little less than a bowl among myself and one other each time.

My problem is there's a lot of different opinions and answers about how long it takes the get out of the system. Some say that a chronic user would take 4-6 weeks to get rid of THC, others say it may take as long as 90 days.

Some say that chronically using makes it take much longer to get out of the system, and while that seems true logically because more smoking means increased number of THC, I also read somewhere that chronically smoking, the tolerance makes it harder for THC to store itself.

I weigh 125 lbs, and have an extremely high metablism. I work out maybe 3 times a week for about an hour with dumbells, do a lot of jogging, biking, cleaning and organizing around the house at lightning speed, and all kinds of aerobic excersize. I poop once or twice daily on average, and pee many many many times a day, especially if I drink tea, water, or juice.

I also sweat a lot when I sleep, and wear more clothes than I have to and sweat that way because I'd always rather be a little warmer than I have to than be cold at all.

The last time I smoked was about a week and a half ago, and my court date is 11 days away.

QUESTION: Do you think I will be able to be clean by my court date?

NOTE: I'm looking for facts, and while all opinions are certainly welcome, I would feel a lot better having the opinions backed up with real knowledge.

I thank anyone who may reply in advance, and appreciate any help on the matter. Thank You.

-Devon
PS I was just going to put this in the "Forum Community list", but after clicking it and hitting "submit", it still said choose a category, that's why I listed it under "other law", for those who felt the question was out of place. That and Criminal Law were the only two suggested categories.

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Originally Posted by upintheskyguy420man

QUESTION: Do you think I will be able to be clean by my court date?

NOTE: I'm looking for facts, and while all opinions are certainly welcome, I would feel a lot better having the opinions backed up with real knowledge.

I thank anyone who may reply in advance, and appreciate any help on the matter. Thank You.

Hello 420 dude:

You're in the right place.. But, all I got is an opinion - and some experience to back it up... For ME, I was clean after 6 weeks of not smoking. I don't know if I would have been clean any sooner. Bet not. But, since the punishment for being wrong was sooooo bad, and since pot is soooo EASY to STOP smoking, I took the EASY way out.

Yeah. You can call me a chicken - a FREE chicken.

excon

Q: What are your variables? IE metabolism, weight, height, how much usage? Did you excersize, or do a lot of aerobic activity?

And as far as quitting being easy, I personally must disagree, at least in my own situation. I've been smoking for over 10 years, at least 7 of them being every day.

Most of the people I've made friends with smoked the stuff too, and pot has made itself a big part of my life.

So quitting has been a really big chore for me. Cigarettes will be even harder, as I started smoking them before I ever tried pot.

Thanks for the help, but the variables are where its at, and what will help tell me if I have a chance. If you took 6 weeks and don't excersize a lot, or have more weight on you, than I might have a chance, whereas if you weigh as little/are as active as I am, than I likely won't have a chance.

Thank you for your help and time.

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Originally Posted by upintheskyguy420man

Q: What are your variables? IE metabolism, weight, height, how much usage? Did you excersize, or do a lot of aerobic activity?

Hello again, up:

Makes no difference. The THC molecule resides in your fatty tissues. It's not water soluble, so all the exercising, sweating, pooping, peeing and drinking you do, won't change a thing.

excon

The FACT that THC resides in fatty tissue is precisely the reason all those variables do matter. By burning off the fat cells, (and I only have approx. a 4-5 percent body fat to begin with), you get rid of the thc.

Metabolism (including peeing, pooping) has to do with just that.

If what you were saying was true, then every person who smoked pot even once would take the same time to run it out of their system.

Our bodies are all different and all react differently to whatever we take into our bodies, that's why these variables matter, and why I posted my variables so those who tried to answer would have more to go on.

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Originally Posted by upintheskyguy420man

If what you were saying was true, then every person who smoked pot even once would take the exact same time to run it out of their system.

Hello again, 420:

Yup. That's what I think happens, give or take a day or two. I could be wrong, though. I was wrong once.

excon

All due respect, I believe you are, and for my freedom's sake, I certainly hope so. From all the reading I've done on forums, and from basic common sense, it would make sense that THC storing on fat cells would be able to be burned off with the fat burned that it lies on, and what's left would go through the body and come out one way or another as waste.

I've even read that users who chronically smoke have a tolerance, and that tolerance makes it harder for THC to store on the fat cells. Your opinion seems to somewhat small sminded and narrow in (IMHM), there are a lot of facts and a lot more thinking involved, and as I said, every body acts and reacts differently, no one persons situation is the same, every persons story varies or there would just be a simple straight answer to my question, such as "34 days, 2 hours, and 10 minutes".

After reading so many of these stories, that's why I understand the variables and that it can take different time for situations, but that's why I'm asking my question. To know if my situation and my variables will allow me to be clean by a certain time. Just like all science, this is a time thing. Nobody can (fully) predict and unpredictably complex organism's ability to do what I'm trying to (vaguely) predict. That's why I'm wondering if anyone has had an experience similar to mine and had success in being clean in the time I'm elaborating.

I also realize that even their variables can't be exactly the same as mine, but if they were close, or I heard from a couple people who had the same result with similar situations and variables, than I could safely assume I'll be okay. Hence the need for the question old man.

Hey Sky Guy - What part of you're going to get caught and get violated don't you understand? You will get caught. You will be violated.

As Exie so astutely pointed out you can exercise, drink gallons of water enough to sink a battleship, etc, etc, and guess what? You're still going to have the THC in your system in the fatty tissues. The lining of the mouth is a great place for the THC to hide by the way.

So, get ready to face the music as it will be coming to you in 11 days from now with the force of a freight train.

The best way to pass a drug test is not to do drugs in the first place.

Until pot is officially designated "a harmless herb" you will have to deal with the consequences of an illegal substance and it's repercussions in Court.

Exie is no fool when it comes to not getting locked up. Please listen to him as he knows what he's trying to tell you.

Ok, so you know you will be tested and you just keep smoking,?
So its harmless, not so harmless when you are bunking with BUBA in lock up.

We gave caught and fired a lot of workers who swear they had not for a month,

Now sure I am going to say good luck but do tell us what ahppened

He has a whole lot of theories,I just hope he dosen't spent time behind bars expanding on them.

Artlady - I think he's just come here to get our collective "blessing" that nothing is going to happen to him as he keeps smoking away. He'll certainly have plenty of time to figure out just what he did wrong when he's in jail or given more probation by the Judge.

We've told you the truth, Skyguy, please accept it and try, please try, to believe us about this stuff. Pontificating about reality is not going to do you any good.

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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

He has a whole lot of theories,I just hope he dosen't spent time behind bars expanding on them.

Artlady - I think he's just come here to get our collective "blessing" that nothing is going to happen to him as he keeps smoking away. He'll certainly have plenty of time to figure out just what he did wrong when he's in jail or given more probation by the Judge.

We've told you the truth, Skyguy, please accept it and try, please try, to believe us about this stuff. Pontificating about reality is not going to do you any good.

My sons friend just got busted for a dirty UA ,not because of THC but because he flushed out so much he was lacking creatine in urine and they deemed it an adulterated test.

Trying to beat the system is usually a venture filled with hope but lacking smarts.

I'm no longer trying to beat the system. A few of you have stated tham I'm still smoking, which stopped approx. two weeks ago.

You can say I've come here for a collective blessing, when really I came here to here from those who had been through the experience, which it seems some of you lack in this area, and although ex-con may have been to jail, he said that he straight-up quit, which means he wouldn't have gone through different experiences with it, and wouldn't know how the numbers fluctuate at all. He didn't have a problem even guessing at the variables, let alone making a rough calculation, because he didn't try to calculate, he stopped long before he had the need for any of that, from what I understand.

I wanted to get a clean test to show court, and was simply asking if that was worth trying based on my situation. I'm not just a theorist, I'm a realist. Tell me to face reality, but you don't see that I am facing it head-on, or I would be out smoking a blunt right now.

It may have taken a while for me to face reality, but all I was trying to do here was realistically ask the real facts about the time it takes for THC to exit the body. So far I've gotten only opinions, which as I said are welcome.

I said in an earlier post I thought I may have been quit for two weeks, but I talked with the last person to smoke with me today, and he said it was more like 2 weeks, which sounds about right.

That time when I did smoke with him, I remember only taking two small hits, he didn't pack much.

Just another of the variables that decide the numbers. I've been on probation before, and (although nothing to do with pot putting me on probation) I was tested then too. I was tested quite often, and my probation officer would present me with numbers. At the time, the highest number was 200, and my first test was 192.

That for all of you that don't think numbers mean anything, and that you could take 2 hits for the first time in your life and have it take as long to get out of your system as someone who smokes a blunt every 2 hours, means that I smoked a lot.

This time is different (see what variables do? Change things.. (duh).)

Two months ago I was smoking every day, once or twice, sometimes a little more, a day.

I started weedling down as not to have all the anxiety I know is asosciated with cold-turkey methods.

A month and a half ago, I started smoking once every 3-4 days. Around a month ago, I made it less than that, and didn't smoke for two weeks, until two weeks ago, where I took two dainty hits.

If your trying to tell me that situation is just the same as if I were sitting here with a blunt right now, and that my numbers would be the same (no variables and everyone's the same), then I will have to respectfully disagree.

Also in the aspect of reality we talked about earlier, I've accepted the fact that if I go to jail, I go to jail. In the mean time I'm focusing on ways to show court that I'm doing well and really trying. Things such as looking for/possibly getting a job, getting clean (or at least lowering my numbers to next to as low as possible, hopefully next to nothing), finishing my community service, and staying out of any further trouble with the law.

If the reality you speak of is a freight train, consider me superman and ready to take it on >:-)

And as far as ruining my health for nothing. Drinking water doesn't ruin your health and I didn't drink fluids excessively. Fact is most people don't drink enough water, and become slow and sluggish.

And for another fact, I usually drink soda like its going out of style, sometimes putting a 2-liter down in an hour.

Changing over to water, and drinking much less of it than I normally do soda, is an extremely good switch, and awesome way to revamp my health and stamina.

And like I said, I'm not trying to beat the system anymore, I'm accepting its authority over me, and taking appropriate actions to abide by its authority. You should know the difference.

And Fr_Chuck, you obviously don't know that jail is nowhere near what the movies portray, and people aren't constantly raped by a guy named bubba. In fact, in the easy-street jail I may possibly attend, (I was in it not long ago), I'm quite sure that as long as I'm not a nosy retard, and keep to myself, I will be just fine for whatever duration I'm there.

Marble Valley Regional Correctional Facility in Rutland is pretty much easy street.

Thank you for the good luck, but I thought you should know that, and like I said I'm not currently smoking, I'm doing the best I can not to, as well as taking productive courses of action that I mentioned in previous post.

Hello again, up:

Let me see. Vermont, huh? That's one of the 13 states where you can get a prescription for medical marijuana.. Senate Bill 76 allows you to have 2 oz's of smokable dope and 9 growing plants. The card'll cost you $50.

Then you'd HAVE your get out of jail free card.. I don't know why you don't do that.

excon

Because, being a realist, I don't see the likelihood of that working out. I don't have cancer, or glaucoma, or anything seriously debilitating. I could argue that it helps anxiety, and based on the fact that I hurt my tailbone in a dirtbike accident, could be a form of pain-relief, but other than that, I don't see a doc thinking I have any reason to sign for me to have a card.

That law also requires a bonafide relationship with between doctor/patient of over 6 months. And although I have known my doctor much longer than 6 months, his awareness of my much higher than average anxiety is none at all.

Without any in depth reason, I don't see him signing as I said before.

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It may have taken a while for me to face reality, but all I was trying to do here was realistically ask the real facts about the time it takes for THC to exit the body. So far I've gotten only opinions, which as I said are welcome.

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