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  • Nov 30, 2009, 06:23 PM
    mathwiz3502
    Favorite Matthcounts Question
    Here is one of my most favorite questions for Mathcounts, a national math compitition:

    Square ABCD has sides of 13 units. Point E is located inside square ABCD where line AE is 5 units and line BE is 12 units. Now, how far, in units, is point E from line AD. Express you answer as a mixed number.
    Hint:your work should have nothing to do with any math above 9th grade level (calculus, triginometry).;)

    This is not a homework question so I would rather have you simply state your answer rather than explaining it to give others a go at it:D
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
  • Nov 30, 2009, 07:47 PM
    elscarta
    60/13 = 4 8/13
  • Dec 1, 2009, 08:43 AM
    Unknown008

    Ok, I got 4 8/13 (60/13) too! :D using only two rules in maths.

    EDIT: Oops, found my mistake... I got the length of EX, X being the foot of the triangle with base AB :o. Rectifying that, I get 25/13 which is... 1 12/13. Wait, that's what Perito got!
  • Dec 1, 2009, 10:17 AM
    Perito
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    I'm missing something here. If my diagram is correct (and I tried to do it to scale), there's no way the distance (on my drawing, FE) is over 2 units long (I calculate ). What did I miss?
  • Dec 1, 2009, 03:28 PM
    mathwiz3502
    Totally correct Perito and Unknown008, elscarta got E to AB
    Here is how I do it:
    Create a triangle with the points (perito's graph)
    see that 5, 12, and 13 makes a right triangle
    understand that E to AD is horizontal making a right angle where it meets
    multiply 12 and 5 then divide by two to get triangle ABE is 30
    see that 13 is another "base" while E to AB is the height (E to AB is F to A)
    get 13b divided by two equals 30
    b=60 over 13
    now you know b and c(5) for a^2+b^2=c^2
    unsimplify 5 to 65 over 13
    realize that 60/5=12 and 65/5=13
    see that it is another 5,12, and 13 triangle but times 5 and divided by 13
    get 25/13 or 1 12/13
    OK
  • Dec 1, 2009, 07:10 PM
    elscarta

    Sorry, you are right I misread the question. Actually there is a simpler way to find the answer.

    1. recognise that triangle ABE is a right angle triangle (5^2 + 12^2 = 13^2)
    2. angle FAE = angle ABE since both a complementary to angle EAB
    3. therefore triangle AEF is similar to triangle ABE

    4. using ratio of sides in similar triangles you get

    EF/5 = 5/13
    therefore EF = 25/13 = 1 12/13
  • Dec 2, 2009, 04:03 PM
    mathwiz3502
    Good way
  • Dec 3, 2009, 02:30 AM
    Unknown008

    Yup, I too found using pythagoras to lengthy. That's why I said before, only two rules, the pythagorean triples and similar triangles :)

    Anyway, if you have more mathwiz, I'll say... Keep 'em coming! :)

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