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  • Nov 8, 2009, 10:09 AM
    RT789
    Confused but willing?
    Greetings, first time actually signing up.. have lurked around here plenty of times and gotten plenty of good advice for my own self to use. Great information here. But now it is time for me to ask for advice, and opinion and see what other views I get..


    I will try my best to be clear and not try to jump place to place with information, but hopefully it will be readable.. sorry if it isn't and requires a second read! :rolleyes:

    I was in a almost a year relationship. I met this girl when she was not speaking to her ex-boyfriend of 4 years. She was merely just enjoying her time single, partying, hanging with friends. She was happy but also did show she did miss her ex-boyfriend. They had no contact and if there was any, she was hostile by just looks or one worded answers. They broke up because he cheated on her, and she was a wreck. This was her first real relationship, and lasted for 4 years.

    I met her, maybe 4-5 months after it all happened. Technically I met her before but never spoke much. But we spoke, and things escalated obviously to a relationship.

    After maybe 8 months (we broke up around 10ish), he ended up trying to get in contact with her. She had a bit of a meltdown in front of me when he texted her, "I miss you and love you still". Yeah, woo. They hung out the next day and she said she felt fine and it felt good to hang with him (yep, doesn't understand No Contact to keep herself rekindling things and hurting herself :rolleyes:)

    She then realized she couldn't be speaking to him and be hanging with him because of me. She wanted it to be fair and she made it clear to me she didn't want anything with him. Fine. Sounds good to me, I'm comfortable.

    Month later, I guess he started texting her again about everyday greeting her like, "morning beautiful". I caught it one day and confronted her. Her response was she hasn't responded and has been trying to talk to her, and she wanted none of it. Sounds good. Week after that, it got a little more. Calls I guess, and then she started mutually texting him. Texting and calling seemed more common, but she hid it to not hurt me (what I think). I don't like him much since he didn't respect her boundaries and tried getting back with her when we were clearly in a relationship and he knew.

    So, hopefully that's some good background... but there's a little more. (novel?) So, she confronted me one day and told me she had something to say. She admitted she started talking to him again. I didn't react with hostility or anything. I ended up telling her I wasn't happy with that decision because I knew it would bring back feelings and whatnot, considering how I know how he was talking to her. I told her I was not comfortable, and not a good idea considering I know it was her first serious relationship, 4 years, etc. She said it was not, and it was fine and under control.

    I was not happy but believed her. Next weekend, I got 2 calls from a former girl who I messed around with and told her about her since she asked about her earlier on in the year with who she was to me. 2 Calls she made to me because she needed someone to talk to, so I was an ear. No big deal, doesn't mean I'm cheating on her. One night after her not normally speaking to me and acting weird, she blew up on me. Told me she saw the calls and it has been on the back of her mind. Told her since when is it okay for you to speak to your ex boyfriend who you know wants to be back with you and I know he speaks to you the way of being very lovey-dovey. Told me she needed a break to figure things out and whatnot. At that point I didn't know why she used the excuse of the girl I had 2 calls with, but then later on found out by asking her.

    It has been a month, we kept in touch and we pretty much acted like we were in a relationship.. we spoke everyday, sameday rituals in a way, but with guilt with the fact she broke what wast between us. We still had sex every time we saw each other (woops) and I brought up what she had thought and what she wanted to do. Every time was "I don't know what I want".

    Clearly she's confused because she told me in her 4 year relationship, they broke up a few times due to just bad arguments they had and came back together after a week of time or whatever. She knows she's screwed up and isn't playing fair with me, she has admitted it plenty of times. Still tells me she loves me and cares for me. I played the NC for a day and she couldn't handle it, told me she couldn't do a day without speaking to me because she sees how much she cares and loves me and how much I've done for her, etc etc.

    Now, I'm at the point where I just want an answer. She can't have both (me or her ex), so she has to choose who she wants to have. Me, (NC with ex), or him (NC with me anymore). She has trouble talking about it and crys about it all the time. She tells me she wants to be with me, but doesn't because it's not fair she's thinking of him if she's with me. So I told her, I want to help. First step is NO CONTACT. She tells me she wants to talk to him though, and I tell her well; it's either me or him. She tells me she hates how pushy I am with it.

    After that nice big novel, tell me your advice/opinion on this. Yes, I love her and care so much for her. But I can't be doing anymore of this after a month of going back and forth with the subject and this on my mind too much.

    Thanks for reading.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 10:38 AM
    amicon
    I don't think she s over the ex and as it appears she hasn't healed from that breakup she shouldn't be in a relationship with anyone right now.
    There s too much confusion and drama here-you need to stand up for yourself and do what is right for you.
    So I think you d be better off walking away from this and starting NC.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 10:40 AM
    RT789
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by amicon View Post
    I dont think she s over the ex and as it appears she hasnt healed from that breakup she shouldnt be in a relationship with anyone right now.
    There s too much confusion and drama here-you need to stand up for yourself and do what is right for you.
    So I think you d be better off walking away from this and starting NC.

    Appreciate the opinion. I've been thinking that, just haven't acted upon it.

    Can't wait to hear more from the others!
  • Nov 8, 2009, 10:43 AM
    amicon

    Im sure you will-I don't know where in the world you are sometimes it just goes a bit quiet on a Sunday. :-).
  • Nov 8, 2009, 11:51 AM
    sully123

    She has to figure her own life out. This is not fair to you, its an emotional roller coaster.She is playing the two of you.You have to take a backseat right now and build your own life without her. It seems to me she is not over this guy yet, until she gets him out of her system. This is what you are up against. She is flip flopping from one to the other. Tell her until she figures her life out and can be faithful to you, your out of the situation. Good luck.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 12:54 PM
    redhed35

    I think perhaps you already know what it is you need to do,and just need confirmation.

    Although it is admirable that you have put time and lots of talk into this relationship,it has become quite stressful.

    Her head and heart are neither with you or him... you both losing and she's winning,two men vying for her attention...

    You have given her enough time to make up her mind,perhaps now its time to make the decision based on your feelings... make it easy for her and op out of this rat race for a women who is cheating on two men.

    You may think that cheating is harsh but she is emotional cheating.. either one of the two men involved are getting her full attention... its a classic love triangle.

    Say enough... show her the door and start coming back into the world,where there are women who want a relationship and who understand the concept of 'its over'!

    She is not being fair too either of you,however way she puts a spin on it,or how often she cried it's a sham,because her actions betray her words.

    My advice.. move on,no contact.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 01:01 PM
    RT789

    Correct, I'm looking for another view on it and No Contact is definitely what I'm looking for unless she is willing to not have contact with him and actually realized this and willing to put her foot down now and show her first progress.

    She says she's happy with me, loves me and cares.. but she put herself into this knot with herself emotionally and she knows (has told me) she isn't being fair about it, and it kills her to do this to me and how I've been to her (she claims amazing, but let's be real, nobodies perfect, but I have been very good to her since she claims I'm all what she's ever wanted)

    We'll see what happens when she gets in touch with me later. Will be offering the last offer of a step of No Contact with him if she really wants to pursue, or I'm going to step back and not talk to her until she feels clear.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 01:07 PM
    redhed35
    Keep in mind that her ex is most likely saying the same things too... are you her fall back guy?

    There is a member here.. taliman, whose by line is...

    Don't make someone a priority in your life,while they make you an option in theirs.

    You're an option... not a priority.

    She is regarding her 'problem a priority' and trying to sort it out...

    Maybe you should take a leaf out of her book,and make YOU a priority in your life.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 01:15 PM
    RT789
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redhed35 View Post
    keep in mind that her ex is most likely saying the same things too....are you her fall back guy?

    there is a member here..taliman, whose by line is...

    dont make someone a priority in your life,while they make you an option in theirs.

    your an option....not a priority.

    she is regarding her 'problem a priority' and trying to sort it out...

    maybe you should take a leaf out of her book,and make YOU a priority in your life.

    You show a great point. Appreciate the view and the line. I'll have to keep that line in mind from now on.. does make good sense and is a great reminder of any situation.
  • Nov 8, 2009, 01:19 PM
    redhed35

    I'm afraid I can't take the credit for it.. tal is the master...
  • Nov 8, 2009, 02:28 PM
    Terry MJ Carter
    Mate! You're story is identical as mine.

    What I'm doing right now is just trying to see her from another perspective. Never commanding her.

    It's been hardly one year that you know her, and look at you, you're fallen for her. Think about her, just try to be in her shoes, it's been 4 years she's been dating him dude!! It's not that's easy to forget the first love.

    Give her sometime, act cool, like a friend. She needs to move over him completely to be able to step into a new relationship.

    I know every time she arises his topic, you sit in agony... You can't retain your jealousy, your anger.

    Show her your love not only by having sex with her, but doing things that you might think her ex didn't.

    Make her like your favorite number in the roulette game. She's the #3. The number 1, 2, 4 and 5 are the basic parts in her life. Put on the money on all the 5 numbers. Bet $100 on each, except the #3, bet $50, as this is the one your life depends on. If the ball doesn't stop on the #3, you're sure one of the other 4s are on your side.

    Attack her through her family, gain her faith. Never ask her if he called her or vice versa, if she wants you to trust her, keep faith, she'll tell you everything on her own. If she really wants to erase him from her past and wants you in her future, she'll make the correct decision. You can't go against the law of nature. Just take it easy, don't bother yourself.

    You love her, that's not easy to get over her. Just act cool. If your love is true nature will bounce to give it to you, just keep patience and faith in God. But just as tal said 'DON'T MAKE HER YOUR PRIORITY' for not be found alone if ever you get a -ve from her.

    Life is not always made of good things, prepare for the worst for when it comes across, you're strong enough to fight your emotions.

    If you're strong, your strength will speak for itself , if you're weak words will be of no help.

    It depends on you, either you act cool (if you want to get your love), have patience or if you just can't take it anymore, so just remove her from your life.

    What's the point in ever trying to be happy when the very pursuit of happiness is what makes you miserable!
  • Nov 8, 2009, 02:46 PM
    bjohnrupp

    Ok I just read you're whole thing... dude just forget about her and MOVE ON! I know you love her but she is playing you. Make her respect you and have respect for yourself. Start no contact immediately. She's going to get away with this as long as she can. Sounds to me like she's seeing him now and trying to rekindle things with him and stringing you along in case things don't work out with him. Trust me- I know I went through this 2 1/2 months ago... she'll string you along until you are replaced.

    Surprise her by no contact- if she truly loves you she'll want you back. Do you want to be someone's back up plan? Do you care that most likely she's having sex with him now also? Your only chance is to start no contact immediately and don't respond to any of her texts or calls.
  • Nov 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
    RT789

    Just a FYI update.

    Told her pretty much via e-mail I was done with her and she can go have fun with her ex boyfriend which is now most likely going to be her boyfriend anyway. Have had no contact for a week. She has emailed me once reminding me about her phone line on my account (canceling it one the check she sent goes through), and to let her know when I do.

    Already has texted me a few fowarded messags of my texts from her phone. I didn't answer. I know she's been a wreck about it but hey, if she really did love me she wouldn't be doing what she is doing now. She said this and I will quote it via email:

    "So id like to be friends. I LOVE you. I do. Its hard to admit but I do. I can't help wanting to be with my exboyfriend and ignoring my feelings would be pointless. What I did was not a mistake. But perhaps a lesson I will learn in time. Maybe we'll cross paths again, maybe we can talk?"

    I told her I don't want to be friends (my last e-mail I sent her) and that I'm not going to be friends and have these feelings while you go off to your ex. Nope. Bye!

    Just thought I'd update for anyone who may have a similar situation considering I am still trying to get over her, but doing good thus far. No contact with her in a few days, and she hasn't tried with me since.
  • Nov 21, 2009, 01:01 PM
    rockie100

    You've done the right thing. Keep up the good work.
  • Nov 21, 2009, 01:07 PM
    talaniman

    I love it when a guy puts good common sense over intense feelings.

    You have done the right thing for yourself, and it won't be long before you become aware of better options, and opportunities.

    Well done!
  • Nov 21, 2009, 01:44 PM
    RT789
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I love it when a guy puts good common sense over intense feelings.

    You have done the right thing for yourself, and it wont be long before you become aware of better options, and opportunities.

    Well done!

    I sometimes have to remind myself why my mind shouldn't be wandering about her and read my emails I sent to her (the last few) since it summed up all of the feelings and everything considering she had sex with her ex and I knew anyway so that pushed me to finally make a decision for myself right before I put my foot down for NC, so I'm feeling more healthy happier without being in that terrible mind of state the past month and a half now.

    Anyway. I unfortunately have to e-mail her next week and letting her when I will be canceling her line. I have blocked her off contact via social networks (well, deleted) AIM, Facebook, Myspace.

    But, I like to think the phrase," Actions speak louder then words " to relate to my situation. Feels good to read the forum, esp my own thread and look at it and to think I was a fool earlier this month.

    So far so good, I guess. Have been trying to keep productive by staying around friends then staying home and being curious and relaxing. Has been working for me though.

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