We have a second floor shower (the shower is fiberglass) and underneath it is our living room. We noticed a little bit of a water spot (real lit brown barely can be seen) around our recessed lighting and then the design that is sprayed onto the ceiling began to fall apart. I repaired this spot and we have not had any problems or noticed any for a while now, however, I was told by my wife today that the spot that I repaired was dark. This spot that I repaired, I repaired it with a sheetrock compound. When I checked this spot, it is wet, as if water from the shower above soaked into it. That faint brown spot is still on the ceiling but did not get any darker but we have more of that ceiling design starting to fall down. My questions are first: Will this water be cause of this design that was sprayed on to fall off the drywall? And next: I noticed that our shower still has water sitting in the drain, Can this be the cause of our leak (A clogged drain)? And finally: Should there be some sort of caulking between that drain and the PVC pipe to keep the water from leaking or seeping done the pipe? Thanks and please reply soon! :eek:

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Will this water be cause of this design that was sprayed on to fall off the drywall?

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Was the "design" a wall paper border? If so the water loosened the bond.

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I noticed that our shower still has water sitting in the drain, Can this be the cause of our leak

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This is standing water? Do you mean that water's setting on top of the drain or can you see it down in the pipe?

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Should there be some sort of caulking between that drain and the PVC pipe to keep the water from leaking or seeping done the pipe

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Your drain sxhould be PVC and cemented to the PVC pipe.
You're going to hafta open up that wet spot and locate the source of the leak.
It could be the drain seal's ruptured, a leak in one of the joints or even the shower stream hitting tile grout that's shrunk allowing water to leak past the shower pan.
But you won't know until you open up the ceiling and check. Good luck, Tom

You can see this water down the pipe, I would say that it is about 3 to 4 inches down the pipe but it is standing water, is this suppose to be like this or is this pipe supposed to be empty

As for my drain, it looks as if it is metal and not PVC, is this a possibility

If this drain is metal, does it still contain a anti friction disc and a rubber seal like the PVC do

You said that it could be water hitting tile grout that shrunk but this shower is fiberglass there is no tile so that would eliminate this possibility am I correct or not?

Richard, You don't have to start a new post every time you have something to add. Simply click on "edit" and add to the original.

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You can see this water down the pipe, I would say that it is about 3 to 4 inches down the pipe but it is standing water, is this suppose to be like this or is this pipe supposed to be empty

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What you see is the trap seal and is normal.

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As for my drain, it looks as if it is metal and not PVC, is this a possibility
If this drain is metal, does it still contain a anti friction disc and a rubber seal like the PVC do

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Yes!

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You said that it could be water hitting tile grout that shrunk but this shower is fiberglass there is no tile so that would eliminate this possibility am I correct or not?

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You are correct! Enclosures don't have that problem.
My bet's on the drain and the seal on the lip. Determine how it's fastened and get back to me.. Regards, Tom

The shower drain looks like it is threaded on the inside and the rubber seal needs to be replaced it is dry and has cracks. Here is a picture http://heavenlyhints.com/Documents/shower%20drain.html

The picture did not show but here is the link for the picture http://heavenlyhints.com/Documents/shower%20drain.html

Rather then pulling or replacing the drain would it be possible for you to caulk the gasket opening with Silicon Jel? That would tend to act the same as the rubber gasket. Sound like a plan? Tom

I was thinking about doing that and didn't know if this could be possible or if there was supposed to be silicone there to begin with. However, I believe that I will do this and you are correct, this should have the same effect. Thanks for the help!

Let me know if it helps. Good luck, Tom