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  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:12 AM
    excon
    Is Obama keeping us safer than Bush?
    Hello:

    You tell me. As of today, Obama has kept us SAFE for 33 days LONGER than the dufus did. Imagine that, righty's.

    excon
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:21 AM
    ebaines

    That's pretty sillyand illogical. By this logic you would have to say that O is a bigger war hawk than W, as many more US servicemen have been killed in the first 9 months of O's administration than in W's. That would be just as silly a thing to say. Going further - you would have to agree that Bush's economic policies were better than O's because the unemployent rate at this point in Bush's presidency was so much lower than O's. Somehow - I doubt you would agree with that!
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:34 AM
    spitvenom

    ebaines what you are not pointing out is that the unemployment rate when Obama got into Office it was 7.8%. After 9months it has gone up about 2%. So Bush created the 7.8% and Obama has managed to contain it to only go up 2% in 9 months. Not to great but not that shabby.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    No terrorist attacks on American soil - he rocks!
  • Oct 14, 2009, 12:06 PM
    ETWolverine

    Cute. Not very logical, and really bad math, but cute.

    Elliot
  • Oct 14, 2009, 12:16 PM
    spitvenom

    We know but of course you reacted.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 12:39 PM
    speechlesstx

    Not very good at math are you, ex?
  • Oct 14, 2009, 12:48 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Not very good at math are you, ex?

    Hello Steve:

    Not by my count. It's 33 days today... Unless, you're counting in some weird right wing way...

    Let me see. We were attacked on September 11, of the dufus's first term. As of today, Obama has kept us safe for 33 days LONGER in HIS first term, than the dufus did in his. How would YOU count that?

    excon
  • Oct 14, 2009, 01:00 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    Not by my count. It's 33 days today... Unless, you're counting in some weird right wing way...

    Lemme see. We were attacked on September 11, of the dufus's first term. As of today, Obama has kept us safe for 33 days LONGER in HIS first term, than the dufus did in his. How would YOU count that?

    When you put it that way I'd agree, but you left out the "in HIS first term" part in the OP. By my count Bush kept us safe for roughly 7 1/3 years, Obama still has a ways to go.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 01:19 PM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    ebaines what you are not pointing out is that the unemployment rate when Obama got into Office it was 7.8%. after 9months it has gone up about 2%. So Bush created the 7.8% and Obama has managed to contain it to only go up 2% in 9 months. Not to great but not that shabby.

    ExCon was trying to compare the results of O's first 9 months with W's first 9. So by that thinking under O the unemployment rate is up 2% whereas under W in his first 9 months it was barely changed - does that mean that W was better at managing the economy? Please understand - I am NOT saying this is a valid argument; only that it shows how "facts" can be used in silly ways to try to jab the opposition, which of course was precisely ExCon's intent. None of this has any bearing on which guy is (or was) better for the country.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 01:29 PM
    spitvenom

    I realize that now.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 01:33 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines View Post
    "facts" can be used in silly ways to try to jab the opposition, which of course was precisely ExCon's intent.

    Hello e:

    Me jab?? Nahhh.

    But, a fact is a fact, after all. I cited a fact. You may draw your own conclusions. I drew the obvious one. It doesn't surprise me that you guys draw another one. Don't change nothing. The facts ARE the facts.

    excon
  • Oct 14, 2009, 02:42 PM
    paraclete
    Subtle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    You tell me. As of today, Obama has kept us SAFE for 33 days LONGER than the dufus did. Imagine that, righty's.

    excon

    You are just too subtle for them ex
  • Oct 14, 2009, 02:52 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    you are just too subtle for them ex

    He's just very adept at moving the goal posts.

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