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"Racism ... still exists and I think it has bubbled up to the surface because of a belief among many white people, not just in the south but around the country, that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country... I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he is African-American."
--- Tuesday Sept. 15, 2009 in an NBC interview with Brian Williams

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Now, before we disregard President Carter, we should keep in mind that this is the person who single-handedly created a 4-year recession, created the Community Reinvestment Act which was a major cause of our CURRENT financial crisis, mangled the Iran Hostage Crisis, created double digit unemployment, mishandled the OPEC fuel crisis, negotiated the failed North Korean nuclear program agreement which has directly lead to NK's current attempts at nuclear armament, has traveled the world to denigrate the USA and criticize US policy, and has accused Israel of attempted genocide for defending themselves against terrorist attack and over 4,000 missile attacks from Palestinian-held lands.

There. NOW we can disregard him.

Elliot

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NOW we can disregard him.

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Hello El:

You can disregard him, and you do. But, if you pay attention, you'll see that racism still exists. I don't know how you guys miss it. It's going on all around you.

But, that's why I'm here - to bring you back to reality.

excon

PS> Tell me, as a JEW, how does it make YOU feel when your friendly rightwingers paint Obama up as Hitler??

The poor, grieved soul. I made note of his lunacy yesterday, but I was even more offended by Rep. Hank Johnson:

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"He did not help the cause of diversity and tolerance with his remarks -- if I were a betting man I would say it instigated more racist sentiment," Johnson said Tuesday. "And so I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people.... That's the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked, and Congressman Wilson represents it. He's the face of it."

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And then today in our now thrice a week Leonard Pitts Jr. column, he made the logical jump from Timothy McVeigh to Joe Wilson using the latest Intelligence Project of the Southern Poverty Law Center on domestic terrorism.

We unfortunate whiteys ``feel that this is no longer the country that their Christian white forefathers built, that they have been robbed, that this isn't the world they grew up in and that they are very, very frightened'' according to the SPLC's Mark Potok.

Yeah, there probably are some that feel that way but I couldn't care less what color any one is and I'm fed up with imbeciles like Carter, Johnson, Pitts and Potok playing the race card like the cowards they are.

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Hello El:

You can disregard him, and you do. But, if you pay attention, you'll see that racism still exists. I dunno how you guys miss it. It's going on all around you.

But, that's why I'm here - to bring you back to reality.

excon

PS> Tell me, as a JEW, how does it make YOU feel when your friendly rightwingers paint Obama up as Hitler????

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What bothers me is one of the world's most notorious racists, Jimmy Carter, calling anyone a racist.

As for anyone painting Obama as a Nazi... well, if the shoe fits, wear it. He's using union thugs to stop any form of protest. He's using his pet MSM talking heads to silence opposition. He's using the FCC to investigate and silence talk radio. His followers in Congress are calling for "investigations" of anyone who opposes him.

So, yeah, he seems to be acting like a Nazi to me. Not Hitler... Goebbels.

And if you have a problem with me saying it, take it up with someone who gives a damn.

Elliot

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You can disregard him, and you do. But, if you pay attention, you'll see that racism still exists. I dunno how you guys miss it. It's going on all around you.

But, that's why I'm here - to bring you back to reality.

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Allow me to bring you back to reality, we don't deny racism still exists. People like Carter keep it alive and well.

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Yeah, there probably are some that feel that way but I could care less what color any one is and I'm fed up with imbeciles like Carter, Johnson, Pitts and Potok playing the race card like the cowards they are.

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Hello steve:

You can paint me too, as one of those imbeciles... I think the loony right is ginning up a race war. I don't know how you're missing it - but you guys seem to miss a lot of stuff.

But, I'm no imbecile. I'm a visionary and I'm right.

excon

The only people mentioning race are those on the left. Dowd, Carter, Obama, Gates, Boxer, Waters, Pelosi... THESE are the race baters. Nobody on the right even mentioned the issue of race until these fools brought it up.

The leftists are so stuck in race politics they don't even know when they are being racist.

YouTube - Senator Boxer Accused of Race Politics

RealClearPolitics - Video - Maxine Waters: Press Should Probe Conservatives For Racist Views

Elliot

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I think the loony right is ginning up a race war. I dunno how you're missing it - but you guys seem to miss a lot of stuff.

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Put aside your prescient powers and look at the reality. Just exactly who is talking about race, ex? It's not us, we are NOT ginning a race war, Obots are. Obama himself set the example when he indicted the Boston police and now that he's faltering the Obots are coming out in droves with charges of racism and in the case of Johnson, fueling fears of a resurgent KKK taking over the country.

Peter Wehner tells it like it is, "We’re only eight months into the Age of Obama—the period in which he promised to unite our divided country, heal our wounds, and bind up our divisions—and Obama’s critics are now routinely labeled as unpatriotic, racists, liars, mobsters, evil mongers, practitioners of un-American tactics, and more. As Obama’s failures mount up, it will only get worse. The volume will only get louder. And the charges will only get more desperate and incendiary.

It will be an ugly and sad thing to witness. Nervous breakdowns often are."

Open your eyes, ex and stop defending these race baiters.

Exit question, since Obama hasn't put forth any health care or virtually any other plan, aren't we protesting what the white, liberal elite in Congress are doing to this nation?

Exit question no. 2, where the hell is this healer of our wounds during this? Voting present?

Hello righty's:

I DON'T disagree with you AT ALL. The left are the ONLY ones TALKING about what the right is DOING.

excon

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Hello righty's:

I DON'T disagree with you AT ALL. The left are the ONLY ones TALKING about what the right is DOING.

excon

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You mean DOING, like Joe Wilson saying "you lie...boy." You mean like all those people in "white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people?"

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You mean like all those people in "white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people?"

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Hello again, Steve:

Are you telling me that the only way you recognize racists is by their clothing?? Dude! I spose it's true, because you certainly don't recognize them by what they DO.

Look! You see death panels where there are none. I see racism where you SAY there is none. You ain't changing what YOU see, and I ain't changing what I see.

excon

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Are you telling me that the only way you recognize racists is by their clothing?? Dude! I spose it's true, because you certainly don't recognize them by what they DO.

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You haven't told us what they're doing. What exactly are they doing? Examples, please.

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I see racism where you SAY there is none.

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Allow me to provide some audiovisual aids:

What Joe Wilson said, "You lie"


What was heard, "You lie...boy" and "You lie you uppity n... and so on"


I know what I heard, what did you hear?

Maxine Waters has outdone you in your prescience though, she wants the media to probe all those "teabaggers" for racist thoughts.

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"I want those people talked to; I want them interviewed," Waters told the liberal Bill Press Radio show in a podcast. "I want journalists to be all over those rallies and the marches with the birthers and the teabaggers."

"What I'm looking for is the very people who carry the signs who are referring to the policies in very, very strange ways like 'Obamacare' and 'Barry Obamacare with Kennedy,'" she said. "What I've been interested in is hearing from those people that everybody's referring to -- everybody on the Mall, in the rally."

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Is this what you want the country to come down to, probing citizens for racist thoughts?

Exit question, since Obama hasn't put forth any health care or virtually any other plan, aren't we protesting what the white, liberal elite in Congress are doing to this nation?

Exit question no. 2, where the hell is this healer of our wounds during this? Voting present?

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Exit question no. 2, where the hell is this healer of our wounds during this? Voting present?

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Hello again, Steve:

It takes two to tango, but you're outside throwing rocks.

excon

Maxine Waters seems to think that referring to Obama's health care plan as "Obamacare" is racist.

Was it racist to refer to Hillary Clinton's health care plan as "Hillarycare" back in the 90s?

Was it racist to refer to Reagan's economics as "Reaganomics"?

Why, according to Waters, is it racist in the case of Obamacare?

Could it be because he's black?

And could it be that SHE is the one making the connection between his race and his plan?

And wouldn't that make HER a racist?

Nah, can't be. She's a card-carrying (is that the same as "certified"?) progressive liberal... she can't be a racist. Only conservatives are racists.

Elliot

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Hello again, Steve:

It takes two to tango, but you're outside throwing rocks.

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That's bullsh*t ex, they are throwing race bombs at us and you are letting them get away with it.

RACIST -n- What a liberal calls a conservative when the conservative has won the argument.

Carter is as phony on this issue as Sheets Byrd .

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During his days in state politics, Carter ran campaigns that treaded dangerously close to outright racism. He once attacked his opponent, Carl Sanders, for preventing George Wallace from speaking on state property. (Carter would later write to one constituent, "George Wallace and I are in agreement on most issues.") Sanders was, Carter charged coyly, trying "to please a group of ultra-liberals." His campaign sent out a mailing featuring a picture of Sanders with two black basketball players—Carter's aides were later found passing out copies of this mailing at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Another campaign leaflet explained "that Sanders had paid tribute to Martin Luther King, Jr." In a detail sure to catch the eye of media- bias obsessives, Hayward notes that a Time magazine cover story on Carter's election faced the ugliness with the following gentle formulation: "To get elected, it was necessary to make some gestures toward the past."

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The Claremont Institute - Malaise Forever

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That's bullsh*t ex, they are throwing race bombs at us and you are letting them get away with it.

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Hello again, Steve:

I'm not making excuses for ANY of the kooks on my side. But, by you saying there's NO REASON to throw bombs, you're letting YOUR kooks get away with too.

What's the answer?

excon

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Hello again, Steve:

I'm not making excuses for ANY of the kooks on my side. But, by you saying there's NO REASON to throw bombs, you're letting YOUR kooks get away with too.

What's the answer?

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You can start by telling us the reason for throwing those bombs. I asked for examples, where are they? Thus far the examples these pathetic race baiters have given us are imaginary so what exactly are we getting away with?

So far, all the examples of "racism" that have been pointed out by those on the left haven't been racial at all.

Wilson's comment wasn't racial, it was a statement of fact. Obama lied. He didn't lie because he was black or white, and Wilson didn't call him on it because he was black or white. But DOWD called it a racial issue. Carter called it a racial issue.

WHERE IS THE RACISM IN CALLING SOMEONE A LIAR??

Maxine waters says the Tea Party protestors are racists. She wants them "investigated". Leaving aside the fact that even if it they were racist, they have the LEGAL RIGHT to be racists... protected by the Constitution, the fact is that they aren't racists. They simply oppose Obama's policies. They don't do so because they are white or black or because Obama is white or black. They simply don't agree with his policies and are protesting them.

WHERE IS THE RACISM IN PROTESTING WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE BAD POLICY BY THE PRESIDENT??

C'mon, ex. Show me the racism. Show me what makes "the right" racist. Please cite specific examples that relate to the statements made by Carter, Waters, Dowd and others... or admit that they were wrong, at least in THESE CASES.

If you want to argue that there are OTHER cases of racism besides the ones that Carter, Dowd and Waters commented on, I'm happy to have that conversation. But please cite specifics. Nebulous accusations of racism without specifics (which is all you have done so far) aren't going to cut it.

The fact that Dowd "heard" something that she admit was never actually said is a pretty lame accusation, don't you think? And the fact that she added the words "whether its fair or not" to her column doesn't make it any less lame... because she knows damn well it ISN'T fair to make such an accusation without evidence.

In England, she'd be in front of a barrister on trial for defamation and libel her head would be spinning. But we have more lenient libel laws in the USA, so she can get away with that crap here.

But I can play the game just as well as she can. For instance:

Every time I see a picture of Maurene Dowd, I see a hooker. Whether it's fair or not, I see a person who sleeps around for money. I don't know that that's actually what she does, but that's the feeling I get every time I see her. She gives the impression of someone who sleeps around with strange men and women for money. So she must be a hooker because I say so.

The accusation is not true. I know it and you know it... but I can make it anyway. That is the level of the accusation Dowd has been making. Carter and Waters did the same thing... accusations based on their personal feeling, but with no facts to back them up.

Carter just has a feeling that those who dislike Obama do so because of his race.

Waters just has a feeling that the term "Obamacare" is meant to be racist.

Where's the proof? Where's the facts? I may not be from Missouri, but I'm a believer in their state motto... "Show me".

Elliot