Are saddle valves illegal in the UPC and would anyone know the section and number.


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Originally Posted by pbr3232

Are saddle valves illegal in the upc code and would anyone know the section and number.


Thank You

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All you gott do is ask on The Plumbing Page. We got the answers, (most times)LOL!
UPC 605.1 Prohibits saddle valves.

"605.1 Valves up to and including two inch shall be brass. Sizes over two may have cast iron bodies or brass. Each gate or ball shall be fullway type with working parts of noncorosive material." I am sure you are right but how do you get saddle valves are illegal out of that section.

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2006 CODE AMENDMENT STEERING COMMITTEE REPORT
Meeting notes from March 27, 2007:
1: Approve March 6th meeting notes.
The meeting notes from the March 6th meeting were approved without any
Modifications.
2: Regional licensing of electricians and plumbers.
Clara Andriola updated the committee on the efforts to date to create a Northern
Nevada licensing board for electricians and plumbers. Southern Nevada has tracked
Increases in safety and productivity by requiring licensing. There are differences
Between Southern Nevada and the Cities of Reno and Sparks regarding who has to
Be licensed, testing and enforcement. There is an ongoing exploration to join the
North and South in a statewide electrical and plumbing board. There may also be a
Proposal at the legislature in the future for state required testing and certifications.
At this point there is no formal request or amendment proposed to the steering
Committee to consider licensing. Clara reserved the right to ask for licensing at a
Future meeting.
3: Review amendments.
Early amendments from the IRC and Plumbing sub committees were reviewed for
Documentation and completeness. There was not a vote on the submitted
Amendments because the required review time was too short. The two IRC
Amendments that dealt with adding a definition of sleeping room and sleeping area
Were returned to the sub committee for lack of justification and documentation. The
Disposition of the plumbing amendments, which were numerous, is as follows:
1: UPC 301.1.3 Cross connection standard. Have water purveyors review for
Accuracy and compliance with Nevada Statues. Send the amendment to
TMWA for review.
2: UPC 609.1 Frost depth. Because of the regional aspect of this amendment
Process a declared depth will not work. The consensus was to remain with the
Code language of 12” below the local frost depth.

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3: UPC 605.1 Prohibit saddle valves. Needs additional documentation. The
Discussion revolved around saddle valves that are installed without piercing
And that additional dangers be identified for excluding saddle valves in
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I really appreciate your time. Great answer.

Thanks Again

If you are using the 2006 UPC book, look under 311.1.

311.0 prohibited fittings ad practices.

311.1 No double hub fitting, single or double tee brach, single or double tapped tee branch, side inlet quarter bend, running thread, band, or SADDLE shall be used as a drainage fitting, except that a double hub sanitary tapped tee may be used on a vertical line as a fixture connection.

Please let me know if this is what you are looking for. Lee.


Oh crap, I was thinking drainage, sorry, I didn't put two and two together(that makes five right? Lol.) Im on the same page now, saddle valves for say a fridge icemaker or furnace humidifier, is this what your asking about. Please let us know what you are trying to achieve and we will look further into our code books. These type of saddle valves are not fully described in the code.

Lee, What about this? 3: UPC 605.1 Prohibit saddle valves. Needs additional documentation. Thediscussion revolved around saddle valves that are installed without piercingand that additional dangers be identified for excluding saddle valves in
General. Tom

I just don't see that in my book, and never got the amendment. Good info though, bet we see it in 2009 codebook. I still fall under 2006 code, will be adopting 2009 early next year(or so they say). Are you looking at a 2006, or 2009 nine book? Because, 2006 doenst have that under 605.1. Thanks again for the info, look forward to getting the 09 addition.

Lee,
Click on ; http://www.nnicc.org/steering_march_27_07_rpt.pdf to read the full amendment. Regards, Tom

Tom, for some reason it won't pop up for me. I even tried typing it in my search bar. Can you help me out on this one. Lee.

Lee,
Install Adobe Reader 8 to read this link. http://www.nnicc.org/steering_march_27_07_rpt.pdf Regards, Tom