:mad Just was reviewing and researching over the net on laws for discriminating against a person, who is obesed, by not hiring her for the secreterial duties because she was too large to be seen around clients, but would fit-in perfectly cleaning up the kennels poo. According to her, she was applying for the secreterial ad, then upon her interview for this position... the job listing suddenly shifted and was no longer being offered, but the kennel cleaning was. After her interview she was standing by her car, on her cell phone, talking to her mom about not getting the job. A young lady (thin lady) who was sitting beside her in the waiting room prior to this lady's interview, came running out to a car that had a young gentleman inside it and was excitedly shouting "I got the secreterial position instead of the kennel help!"

This place of business was a humane society in Indiana. Believe it or not, according to my findings, it IS legal to discriminate against an obesed person in 49 US states. Only one, which is Michigan, has a law that forbids it. Is this incredible or not?

We have laws against discriminating against race, religion, creed, etc. but none on obesity? Why hasn't anyone brought this before the Senate?

On the flip-side... is my research true on this subject? Please let me know if I am wrong, and where I can find out the truth on the net.

If it is absolutely true... shame on them (the H.O.R. & the Senate)... :mad:angel_over_me:mad:

Maybe the thin lady interviewed before the heavy lady, and the thin lady got the secretary job, leaving only the kennel job? There could be a reasonable explanation.

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Maybe the thin lady interviewed before the heavy lady, and the thin lady got the secretary job, leaving only the kennel job? There could be a reasonable explanation.

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According to my friend, this lady went in right after her. My friend was on her cell phone for over 15 minutes before the lady came running out. It was obvious that the lady was not interviewed first. ;)

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According to my friend, this lady went in right after her. My friend was on her cell phone for over 15 minutes before the lady came running out. It was obvious that the lady was not interviewed first. ;)

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There was only one interviewer? Maybe they were being interviewed at the same time by two different people. Also, at the non-profit where I work, for some of the jobs, one has to be able to lift 50 lbs. and be able to be on one's feet for a long period. Maybe the heavy woman couldn't fulfill some of the non-profit's requirements. Also, I found this on the Internet: "Similarly, some non-profits, as private organizations, are not subject to the anti-discrimination laws which might apply to similar organizations serving the public for profit."

Maybe the thin lady was better qualified, or due to higher confidence that can result from better looks stood out more in the interview.
Obesity is often in tandem with low self esteem and confidence, and confidence is really important in an interview.
The obese/thin thing could be completely coincidential.

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We have laws against discriminating against race, religion, creed, etc., but none on obesity? Why hasn't anyone brought this before the Senate?

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Hello a:

Black people can't change into white people... Gay people can't change into straight people. Old people can't get younger. These people are protected because of conditions that can't change.

Obese people CAN get thin. Why should they be protected because of CHOICES they make?

excon

Maybe the interviewer did not like the woman's voice, or maybe her personality. How was her hygiene?

These are all reasons she could have not been chosen for the position. Just because you apply for a job does not mean you will get it obese or not.

Possibly the thin person had more experience in being a secretary than kennel help.

What difference does it make anyhow? If, for instance, if the jobs both paid the same - why not?

At the animal shelter where I volunteered a few years ago there was a very fat woman receptionist who was very loud and very nasty and bossy. All the other full time paid workers at the shelter were thin. The fat one is still there - go figure on that one.

Just because the thin woman went in after your friend did doesn't mean she wasn't interviewed first. Perhaps the other woman interviewed prior to your friend even showing up, and they simply called her back to offer her the position. The other woman may have had much more experience in that field than your friend has.

Was your friend specifically told that they were not hiring her because of her weight, or is that just an assumption?

I agree with excon and am glad someone was brave enough to say that obesity is not a disease. We can't all be as thin as Mick Jagger, but no one has to be obese. Even people with slower metabolisms can remain in good shape by exercising and eating healthy. It's about discipline.

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I agree with excon and am glad someone was brave enough to say that obesity is not a disease. We can't all be as thin as Mick Jagger, but no one has to be obese. Even people with slower metabolisms can remain in good shape by exercising and eating healthy. It's about discipline.

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I agree, and a lot of people think that an obese person lacks that discipline.

If you lack discipline in one area of your life perhaps you lack it in all areas and therefore are not considered for the jobs that require discipline.

Obesity is controllable, for the majority of obese people.

Just my opinion. :)

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I agree with excon and am glad someone was brave enough to say that obesity is not a disease. We can't all be as thin as Mick Jagger, but no one has to be obese. Even people with slower metabolisms can remain in good shape by exercising and eating healthy. It's about discipline.

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Yes and no. My father was very overweight for as long as I can remember; he exercised 5 days a week and nothing worked. He just couldn't lose the weight.

Atkins finally worked for him, but that was only after the weight loss was jump-started by him not eating because of depression when my mom left.

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Yes and no. My father was very overweight for as long as I can remember; he exercised 5 days a week and nothing worked. He just couldn't lose the weight.

Atkins finally worked for him, but that was only after the weight loss was jump-started by him not eating because of depression when my mom left.

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There are some people that cannot lose weight, but the majority of people can if they just eat right and exercise right.

I have a thyroid condition, I could be extremely obese if I didn't monitor it or didn't exercise and eat right. It wouldn't be hard at all to completely let myself go.

I work hard to stay thin, my health depends on it. Heart problems run in my family.