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  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:21 PM
    overayear
    Does jealousy equal feelings
    This is my first time posting but not my first time on this site. I have been on for quite a while now and have learned a lot from other people experiences. I wished I would have came on this site before I made most of the mistakes people make. Anyway my questions is,

    If someone still gets jealous when they see the other person with someone else, does that mean that they are still in love with that person, or at the very least not completely over the other person?
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:24 PM
    BlackVY

    Personally, I think a person will be jealous if they see someone with someone else if they think that person belongs to them or is theirs.

    I do think being jealous means you have some strong feelings for that person, but you need to remember even if they are dating you or not, they are not a possession, they are a human being, and so they have free will and choice.

    Nobody is the property of somebody else.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:26 PM
    57373

    jealousy= abusive behavior.
    First signs of (it's part of control)

    Or jealousy=lack of trust. (if it's actually for a reason,you cheated on them or one of their exes did in the past and they have trouble trusting,but again the feelings are just spite)

    There is nothing about love that is connected to jealousy.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:36 PM
    overayear

    I should have not said love and should have said not completely over that person.

    My Ex who left me gets jelaous when she see's me with other "friends" (girls). We have been separated for a while now, and its she has not said she wanted to get back together so why is she getting jealous?
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:38 PM
    ajGambino

    Jealousy tends to come from insecurity, you cannot base feelings from something off self-consciousness.

    If you get jealous over seeing the "other" person with someone else, I'd say he/she is still not over him/her. It doesn't mean you're still in love, it just means that it's not that easy to let go.


    Your girlfriend needs to let go. She doesn't want to get back together with you but she's still jealous of your friends.. . who cares? Ignore her and let her deal with the problems of leaving someone.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:45 PM
    overayear

    I think you are right and after coming to this site I have finally started the NC. Its only been a month but it's the first time in a long time that I have not been avaible to her. I have been doing everything else as far as meeting new people going out on dates and having fun. During this NC is when she seen me with another girl.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 06:17 PM
    Torrid13

    Girls (and boys) have a tendency, once they break up with someone, to want to have the person they broke up to drool all over them forever.

    She wants you to still want her, but doesn't want to be in a relationship with you. So when you're with other girls, that means you're obviously not worried about her or thinking much about her, and that makes her feel insecure or angry.

    That's what it seems to be like to me, anyway.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 06:51 PM
    briancp34
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 57373 View Post
    jealousy= abusive behavior.
    First signs of (it's part of control)

    Or jealousy=lack of trust. (if it's actually for a reason,you cheated on them or one of their exes did in the past and they have trouble trusting,but again the feelings are just spite)

    There is nothing about love that is connected to jealousy.

    This is very well stated, but I have to tell you that there is not either/or. Jealousy is abusive, insecurity, and possessiveness. I have no doubt that the one was the same way while you were together. Once a couple splits up, and both parties agree that[/B] it is over[/B], and the one continues in jealousy; It is all about possession. Long after the break up, their behavior is based on possession. My wife and I split up with my wife over a year ago, she hates me. When ever she finds out that I'm involved with anything social no matter if it's with another woman or just other friends, she does what ever she can to sabotage the activity. As far as she's concerned, I'm still her's. I hope this not something that you'll have to go through. If it continues to be as bad as what you made it sound, you may just have to more distance between you.
  • Jul 15, 2009, 08:26 PM
    makapuu

    Jealousy is definitely a feeling but I don't think it means you are still in love, or not over the person.
    If you are jealous because someone is with someone else, it could just mean that you are "not happy" that you are alone.
  • Jul 16, 2009, 08:08 AM
    overayear

    Thanks all these are all good points. Lucky for me she didn't say anything that night or anything to me at all in fact. The next day she called me for her things back but sounded as if she was upset with me. I found out from a friend what she was saying about the situation. She was upset at the fact that this "new" girl and I have been hanging out for a while now and she thinks that we were going to get together soon. I don't think she wanted me to know that she was upset about it because she always act like she doesn't care.

    She was jealous during our relationship though, but I think that came from immaturity as well as being hurt from her last boyfriend.
  • Jul 23, 2009, 09:42 AM
    inertia

    Ohh enough already. Jealousy is a normal human emotion. No one is above it. A little jealousy is perfectly healthy. Too much becomes all of the things you are all saying, but give me a break with the dime store psychology. Of course relationships involve a little bit of a possessive quality. If they didn't you wouldn't say "my ex", "my wife", "my girlfriend", "my father", etc. In relation to you, they are your "blank", ergo a possession.

    Again, too much is unhealthy, but if my partner never showed a hint of jealousy ever, I would think a) an alien b) gay c) not in love with me or d) a sociopath.

    Jealousy doesn't mean love, but to say they have no relation is idealistic at best.
  • Jul 23, 2009, 12:13 PM
    overayear

    Thanks for your input, I was asking the questions because as much as she tries to act like she doesn't care (to other people) I and people closer to her has the feeling that she dose. Not saying that we will get back together. I think I am past the denial stage but I did know that my gut was telling me that she was not being honest with herself or to others about her true feelings that she still has for me. Feelings and love doesn't always keep a relationship together and I feel that different circumstances and timing is crucial in our demise. At least I can walk away and know that I felt love and that it wasn't just one sided.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 10:25 AM
    talaniman

    Keep walking away, as she is the one to deal with her own feelings.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 12:15 PM
    overayear

    She does in deed. I don't think she has ever tried to deal with her feelings yet. She seems to push everything away and to the side. I am glad that I am moving on but to say that I am completely over her would be a lie. I saw her (not on purpose) after writing this post and I got clear signs that she is not over me yet. I used to dwell on the things she said and did and tried to rationalize everything but since I have been sticking to my NC its so much easier to see her and not think twice about it. We are friendly to each other but do not talk like we used to. Unfortunately I know I will continue to see her because of our particular situation that I can avoid but by sticking to my guns and not letting her or this breakup get the best of me. I have gone on dates but am not interested in having another girlfriend. I think I need to take this time for me and to be alone. I have always had a girlfriend and always kind of depended on them for companionship. I have learned a lot about myself from this break up seeing as how it's the first time its happened to me. I am glad it happen because I will know how to handle things like this in the furture. I am just venting and writing down my thoughts. Opinions are always welcomed. I do have one question though, no matter what happens between us we never seem to stay mad at each other. When we have seen each other no matter how long the time laps has been, people around us including me feels this instant chemistry that we always have had with each other. My question is why is it still so strong still? I know we aren't getting back together so its not that I am looking for hope I just can't figure out how someone can connect so strong with someone after all the drama.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 01:00 PM
    N0help4u

    I agree with Inertia but you should nt; be worring about if she is jealous. Why does it matter to you? Because it feels good to you that she is jealous of you?
    I'd say that that would be as bad as the jealousy itself.

    If someone has jealousy yes it is a form of feeling whether it is a good healthy jealousy or a bad type jealousy it involves feelings.
  • Sep 23, 2009, 08:31 AM
    overayear
    To say something or not to say something! Disrespectful?
    Ok so I have never really told my whole story and I think it will take far to long to type. Here is a little insight. Me and my ex have had this long drawn out breakup that is finally coming to a close. We had a strong relationship for 3 years, but she is young and wanted to explore the world. I took this break up very hard because for the first time I felt like she was the one. I could have been a better boyfriend and although our connection was out of this world, we clicked on some many different levels I did lie to her and have hurt her. (not cheated). Its been close to two years and we both haven’t been in another relationship.. Fast forward... She asks me to come over to her house to help her move a bed. I go over to her place and I see a wrapper in her trash can. We have been broken up for a while but that is def something that I don't want to see. So I tell her that what I just seen in the trash and that we should just hurry and load up this Bed. She starts to tell me that it isn't hers and goes into this long out drawn out explanation. I tell her that I don't want to talk and we load it up and I leave. She calls me about 2 min later and is still trying to explain why it was in the trash. I hear what she has to say and she basically knows that I don't really believe her. I haven't spoken to her after that. Part 2 is that I live with her brother, we have been friends for years and have live together for a while. Anyway come to find out that she visits her brother and has brought over her "Friend" to my place. I am super pissed about this and want to tell her something about it. My rational is why do you lie and give me and explanation (When I didn't ask for one) then turn around and bring this same guy in question to my house. Granted I wasn't there but I find it really disrespectful/hurtful. My questions is, am I over reacting? I want to tell her something about it but not sure if I should just let it go? How can get her to not do it again? Why dose she explain herself to me?I don't think this new guy should know where I live much less come inside. On a side note, I have been out with this new girl and my ex has seen me with her. Well my ex runs into this girl in question at a disco and is giving her dirty looks. Later that night she walks up to her and asks her if we are talking, then introduces her self as My EX, and then starts being rude to her. I would also like to say something to her about this, but not sure if I should let this go as well. I don't think that my EX should be saying anything to my friends, especially if she ended it with me and has obviously moved on. She is throwing salt on my game and trying to make it so that I can't meet another girl.
  • Sep 23, 2009, 08:35 AM
    kctiger

    I'm not sure what you expect by living with your ex's brother. Your lives are bound to cross paths. You both owe each other no explanation and it is NONE of your business who she dates, what she does and who she does it with, and vice versa. I am sorry, but your room mate has every right to host his sister over there, regardless of who she brings. I would suggest finding another room mate as this seems to be way too much drama. Just my opinion.

    Also, she isn't throwing salt on your game. If your "game" is top notch the girl you are with won't pay any attention to what an ex has to say. Don't use that as an excuse to confront her. Let her be immature all she wants, that doesn't mean you can't be classy.
  • Sep 23, 2009, 08:39 AM
    overayear

    I understand that our lives are bound to cross. I am not interested on who she is with or what she is doing. It isn't so much my roommate that is in question here but more along the lines of why bring him over to my place. Was it necessary for him to come? So in other words you think I am over reacting?
  • Sep 23, 2009, 08:40 AM
    kctiger

    I understand getting worked up about it, I would to, it is natural, but is there really anything less you should expect? It was probably bound to happen sometime, don't you think?
  • Sep 23, 2009, 08:41 AM
    unaffected
    Honestly, I do think you are overreacting about the wrapper and all that. From what I gather from your post, you have been broken up for a couple of years? If that's the case, neither of you should be too invested in the other's love lives.

    However, it is a tricky situation because you live with her brother. I'm sure it was bound to happen that someday she would visit her brother, and she may have a boyfriend at the time, and may bring him along.

    I do think it is uncalled for that she was giving dirty looks to your date. It seems as if she is immature, and that neither of you have really let go or moved on from your relationship.

    I would try to get over the fact that she came to your place to visit her brother with her new boyfriend, and if she treats a date of yours rudely again, I would definitely call her out on it, and ask her to please stop.

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