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  • Jun 22, 2009, 11:03 AM
    blue11
    Replace crimped connector on braided cable?
    I have a Kohler kitchen faucet which has embedded steel braided hoses coming out the bottom of it for hot and cold feeds.

    The steel braided hoses end in a crimp connector, which I then adapted to go to the water supply.

    The crimped end of the hot hose had developed a dripping leak where the braid enters the connector. Is it possible to replace the connector without replacing the entire assembly, without the use of specialized tools?

    If so, how, please?

    Thanks.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 11:30 AM
    speedball1
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    The steel braided hoses end in a crimp connector, which I then adapted to go to the water supply.
    First off, the factory crimps the hose. Simply replace it. Now you can tell me why you would mess with the crimp to start with. Regards, tom
  • Jun 22, 2009, 12:33 PM
    massplumber2008
    Hi all...

    Tom, he isn't talking about that kind of braided hose... he's talking about a similar hose, but it is factory installed so it comes directly out of the bottom of the faucet. Sometimes these can be removed, other times they can't... ;)

    Blue... shine a flashlight up and under the faucet... see if you can see the other end of the connector. If so, you should be able to loosen the hose by turning COUNTERCLOCKWISE (thanks Tom and Lee). If not then the faucet itself maybe shot.

    If you can remove the hose then you should be able to ORDER a new one at most plumbing supply stores... ;)

    Let me know if I misunderstood...

    MARK
  • Jun 22, 2009, 02:03 PM
    blue11
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    Originally Posted by massplumber2008 View Post
    Hi all...

    Tom, he isn't talking about that kind of braided hose...he's talking about a similar hose, but it is factory installed so it comes directly out of the bottom of the faucet. Sometimes these can be removed, other times they can't...;)

    Blue...shine a flashlight up and under the faucet...see if you can see the other end of the connector. If so, you should be able to loosen the hose by turning CLOCKWISE. If not then the faucet itself maybe shot.

    If you can remove the hose then you should be able to ORDER a new one at most plumbing supply stores...;)

    Let me know if I misunderstood...

    MARK
    No, you got it right. The faucet end of the hose terminates in a sort of bulk connector with both the hot and cold lines coming out of the bottom of it and connecting to the water supply. The faucet needs to be taken apart and the entire proprietary assembly has to be replaced as a unit, unless I can find a way to replace the connector with the leaking crimp.

    I'm looking into cutting the leaky end off, buying a short premade hose assembly (with the right connector) which I will cut in half, then using a barbed coupling and some clamps to mate the two together.

    Yes, I know it's not the professional way to do it, but Kohler will take at least a week to get me the part, and disassembling the entire faucet is an enormous pain. I have ordered the entire part from Kohler, but not having hot water in the kitchen for a week is kind of difficult.

    Any other suggestions welcome.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 02:36 PM
    massplumber2008
    NOPE.. seems to be the best answer in this case... ;)

    Sorry couldn't come up with something better for you...

    MARK
  • Jun 22, 2009, 03:50 PM
    speedball1
    Quote:
    you should be able to loosen the hose by turning CLOCKWISE.
    Mark is this a left hand thread? Just wondering, Tom
  • Jun 22, 2009, 04:23 PM
    massplumber2008
    Hi Tom... yup... I meant COUNTERclockwise... thanks! I will make the correction above now.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 04:43 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Mark, it is right clockwise, left counterclockwise. Always righty tighy lefty loosey, unless left handed threads. But I'm left handed, so that was a tough one for me to learn,, lol.

    Blue, I think you can make the splice work. Just need a 1/4(or maybe even an 1/8) barbed by barbed fitting(insert coupling). Use two small hose clamps one each side(total of four). Please let us know if it holds. Never done it before, but it seems like it would work as a temp fix.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 05:15 PM
    massplumber2008
    YUP.. I just popped in to correct it Lee... :) Thanks! Sometimes... I swear!

    And I agree... should be able to make it work temporarily with correct fittings

    MARK
  • Jun 23, 2009, 02:18 PM
    mygirlsdad77
    ;)
    I knew it was just a brain fart. I never thought in a million years I would get the chance to correct your answer, so I figured I better jump at the chance.
  • Jun 23, 2009, 07:09 PM
    blue11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mygirlsdad77 View Post
    Blue, i think you can make the splice work. Just need a 1/4(or maybe even an 1/8) barbed by barbed fitting(insert coupling). Use two small hose clamps one each side(total of four). please let us know if it holds. Never done it before, but it seems like it would work as a temp fix.
    Holding so far. It's been about 8 hours. Thanks for the note about using two clamps on each side - I don't think it would have held with the singles I was planning on using.

    If it's still holding in a week when the replacement assembly arrives, I'm not sure what I'll do. It's a HUGE job to replace it.

    In the meantime, I did put a moisture alarm under the sink;).

    Fixing electronics is just so much simpler:)
  • Jun 24, 2009, 03:10 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Glad its holding. And if there is a problem in the future, at least you have the replacement part.

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