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  • Jun 16, 2009, 02:06 PM
    galactus
    Volume of ellipsoid inside cone
    Here is a fun optimization problem if anyone would like a whirl.

    Find the ELLIPSOID of max volume that can be inscribed in a cone of radius R and height H
  • Jun 17, 2009, 07:33 AM
    galactus
    No takers, huh? It ain't that bad.

    Use similar triangles as you would in any types of these things.

    The volume of an ellipse of revolution is

    Where, as you know, a and b are the major and minor axes.
  • Jun 17, 2009, 07:51 AM
    Unknown008
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    I'd love to take a try, you'll have to guide me though. Ok, what's the question asking really? A cone, in which an ellipse in 3D has to be scribed?
  • Jun 17, 2009, 10:01 AM
    galactus
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    Yes, that's it. But don't over complicate it. These types of problems are all '3D'. Even if you

    have, say, a sphere in a cone or a cone is a sphere or what not.


    Using similar triangles, we get
  • Jun 17, 2009, 11:10 AM
    Unknown008

    Oh gosh, now I've got more variables in the volume formula...



    Ok I found dV/da, solved to zero and got the optimum volume when

  • Jun 17, 2009, 12:13 PM
    galactus
    Yep. That's it. Good deal. And
  • Jun 17, 2009, 09:00 PM
    Unknown008

    Ah, yup. Didn't know if b was required...



    Then, I guess max volume will be replacing the values of a and b?

  • Jun 18, 2009, 05:57 AM
    galactus
    See. I told ya' it wasn't that bad. Just a twist on the typical 'cone in sphere', 'sphere in a

    Cylinder' type problems. Can you think of another? Maybe a tetrahedron in a sphere or a

    Sphere in a tetrahedron?:).

    Hey, how about this one:

    What is the hyperboloid of max volume that can be inscribed inside a sphere of radius R? :confused:

    Just made that up.
  • Jun 18, 2009, 08:37 AM
    Unknown008

    You mean a one sheet hyperboloid, or the two sheet one? Anyway... can that be done? :p

    Just made a search, the equation for the hyperboloid is



    I guess the volume is

    [Volume of cylinder radius r] - 2[Integral of curve from center to r] - 2[Curved volume of top or bottom surfaces]

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