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  • Jun 13, 2009, 03:32 PM
    vijaylala
    3.5" twist and set plastic flange for cast iron pipe
    I have a drain pipe with 3.5" internal diameter
    tired to get twist & set plastic flange
    but no plumber supply carries it- all have either 3" or 4" flange
    i tried both of them- 4" is too big and 3" is too small
    They say-- its odd size
    Any one can suggest where to get this odd size flange?
    Or how deal with this problem
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    Thanks
  • Jun 13, 2009, 04:40 PM
    massplumber2008
    Hi Vijaylala:

    I'm not buying it... no such thing as odd sizes with drain pipes. The fact is that if you have a flange there now then another regular flange will work.. we just have to discover the issue that is making this difficult for you.

    I'm betting, for example, that the 3.5" inside diameter that you are talking about is probably the plastic from a 4" STREET FLANGE sticking into a 4" hub.

    Any chance you can post a picture..?

    Let me know what you think...

    MARK
  • Jun 13, 2009, 09:48 PM
    vijaylala
    Thank you sir
    I'm pretty sure, it is cast iron 3.5" internal diameter- there is no plastic involved yet
    there is no gunk or any other material- or a layer of rust
    i tried 4" twist and set flange - its too big
    I tried 3" twist and set flange - its small
    In our jacksonville- there is d c wholesale plumbing supply-- I have been using since last ten years
    Don the gm of dc supply is surprised as well
    I will send few photos
    Thanks
  • Jun 14, 2009, 09:52 AM
    vijaylala
    Two pictures
  • Jun 14, 2009, 09:54 AM
    vijaylala
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    Two pics
  • Jun 14, 2009, 04:05 PM
    massplumber2008
    Hey again...

    Thanks for the pics... really helps! I see a lead ring around that pipe.. This could suggest that there was a flange there at some point and it is now broken away...

    Can you dig around that pipe a little bit more and see if you can expose a fitting or space around the lead ring..

    Have you tried to at least place a cast iron flange over the pipe... although I think it would run into the pipe it should fit over the pipe nicely? I'm also wondering if you can pry that lead ring up and out using a flat screwdriver and a hammer?

    Remember, I'm just thinking aloud here for you..?

    I think you can install a cast iron flange and then lead it in place, but you would need to crack the old flange out (if present) and/or dig down around that pipe for a few inches... tough but can be done!

    Otherwise, with some additional work and the correct plumbing supplies you can probably just set the toilet without the flange... ;)

    Answer my questions if possible...

    MARK
  • Jun 14, 2009, 04:22 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    It appears to be a regular 3" or 4" C.I. drain. Can you take a photo with tape measure over it ? Thanks...
  • Jun 14, 2009, 07:54 PM
    vijaylala

    Thanks mark and milo
    I can do all the above
    But our problem is -- its 3.5" cast iron pipe-- to find fitting supplies is tough
  • Jun 14, 2009, 07:56 PM
    vijaylala
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    But our problem is -- its 3.5" cast iron pipe-- to find fitting supplies is tough
  • Jun 14, 2009, 09:13 PM
    Milo Dolezal
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    Thanks... It is 4" O.D. Cast Iron pipe.

    Do as Mark suggsted: get 4" x 2" Cast Iron Closet ring. Clean the leftover lead from the outside of the pipe. You may have to chip edges of the concrete around the perimeter of the pips. Install new closet flange.

    I am not sure you can get it in Home Depot. You may have to go to more professional store...

    Enclosed is photo of the closet flange you need...
  • Jun 15, 2009, 05:18 PM
    vijaylala
    Thanks very much
    Mark and milo
    I did get 4* 2" cast iron from Lowe's and commode is where it belongs
    Thanks very much again
    Lala
  • Jun 16, 2009, 01:53 AM
    Milo Dolezal

    Vijaylala: Good job ! The posted photo really helped to solve the problem. Glad to be of help ! Milo

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