I have a childcare center with 45 children, I hired a person to manage my office and help with the overall operations of the center. I pay her 600.00 per week plus free childcare. She does not have any type of college degree but has the 40 hours minimum required to work in a classroom, however, she is very smart and has good organizational skills. I feel that she is taking advantage of being a salaried employee. She comes and goes as she pleases and at times does not even tell me that she is leaving until the day she leaves (example: apartment hunting, 3 hours hair appts. nails done,etc) When I calculated how much personal time she incorporates into this job, she is making much money than me and I am the owner. I have also given her at least two personal days off and a 550.00 bonus since I hired her in January. Do you think 45-50 hours per week for a salaried employee that makes 600 a week plus about 150.00 a week in perks?

If you were paying her by the hour, she probably wouldn't take so much time off without telling you. She is getting a pretty good deal. Wow ! She may have good organization skills but it doesn't benefit you that she is leaving her post. Others (salaried employees) have to do these type of errands on their lunch hour or after hours.

Tick

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Originally Posted by childcare45

Do you think 45-50 hours per week for a salaried employee that makes 600 a week plus about 150.00 a week in perks?

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Hello c:

That's the WRONG question. You HIRED her at that salary. It ain't HER fault. She's getting the job done that YOU hired her for. Frankly, I'd be PLEASED. But, I ain't you.

The RIGHT question is, what are you going to DO about it? As I said, she's doing NOTHING wrong. If you want to correct a perceived mistake that YOU made, all you can do is renegotiate your deal with her. But, of course, you're going to lose her, and that's the way it goes. Believe me, when she's gone, you'll WISH she was back...

excon

Hello again, c:

Yes, I got more to say... I think your biggest complaint is that she makes more than you... In business, THAT kind of thinking will cause you to FAIL.

Bill Gates, who's a pretty smart guy in his own right, hires people SMARTER than him. He's not intimidated by them, because he keeps his eyes on the prize - which is growing his company. He pays good people MORE than they're worth, and then lavishes perks on them. And, he's happy to do, because he doesn't see his people as TAKING from him. He sees them as GIVING to him - which is exactly what they're doing.

At this point, the only difference between Bill Gates and you, is that you think you made a mistake when you didn't. You actually WANT her to be successful, and this girl is. I'd give her MORE money and MORE responsibility. Sounds like she can handle it.

Don't be intimidated by your hires. Hope they're successful at what they do. Be happy they're doing that...

Of course, what I'm telling you to do, is almost impossible for the average boss to do... because THEY want to be the smart one, and THEY want to be the one who makes the most... Maybe, that's why Bill Gates is the richest guy in the world, and most of those other shortsighted people are in the unemployment lines...

excon

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Hello c:

That's the WRONG question. You HIRED her at that salary. It ain't HER fault. She's getting the job done that YOU hired her for. Frankly, I'd be PLEASED. But, I ain't you...

excon

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I have to question your thinking. The OP recognizes that the woman is good at what she does, but how can she be doing what she was hired to do (your words) when she takes 3 hours off in the middle of the day and doesn't notify her employer she is doing so. She has no respect for her employer if she is doing that. What is this woman thinking to do such a thing ? I have to say this again, would she be taking extra time off (and being paid for it and well for that matter) if she had to punch a time clock ?

It is one thing to have good work ethics and another to be completely oblivious, and undisciplined in a salaried 9 to 5 job, and she gets FREE DAYCARE as well.

I have to say, what is wrong with this picture. She was hired for specific duties which to my thinking are being there 9 to 5 (with an hour for lunch).

And all you have to say, excon, is what the employer is doing wrong and siting Bill Gates !

Tick

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I have to question your thinking. I have to say, what is wrong with this picture. She was hired for specific duties which to my thinking are being there 9 to 5 (with an hour for lunch)... And all you have to say, excon, is what the employer is doing wrong and siting Bill Gates

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Hello tick:

I don't know what the contract was. You don't either... But, the contract someone enters into when they accept a salary, is the completion of the job. If completion takes 80 hours a week, then so be it. If it takes 25, then so be that too.

I don't know where you get that a salary requires someone to sit at their desk between 9 & 5. It doesn't. I don't know what you get that she needs permission to leave. She doesn't.

Now, I see that the employer had some unrealized expectations about her employee, that I promise, were NOT spelled out to her.. These are expectations that reside only in the head of the OP. Certainly if that were NOT true, the OP would be telling us about the RULES that she violated... But, there ain't no rules.

It's true. I cited Bill Gates, cause he's doing it right, and I'm trying to help the OP do it right too. You're not helping much.

excon

Hello again, tick:

Yes, I have more to say... If an employer expects a certain amount of HOURS to be put in, then by law, that employee must be paid an hourly rate...

If, however, an employer expects a certain job to be completed for a set pay (salary), then the employer CAN'T set the hours.

The employer CAN'T have it both ways.

excon

You are helping the way you see it. I am helping the way I see it as the salaried jobs I have had over the years. I am not a salaried employee now, I work for the Cdn. Red Cross as an hourly employee; I still have to tell them what I am doing and when, I think they deserve that, as well as it being a stipulation of my employment with them.

Maybe you guys do it differently down there. I have 45 years work experience under my belt, so know the ins and outs of the way they expect salaried employees to work here in Ontario. But it still remains that you respect your employer if she is paying your salary and give her due diligence.

Tick IMOO

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I have 45 years work experience under my belt, so know the ins and outs of the way they expect salaried employees to work here in Ontario

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Hello again, tick:

Maybe we don't disagree all that much... And, no. We're not that different than you...

You used the phrase what they "expect", and I used the phrase "unrealized expectations". The distinction between those two points, is communication, or lack thereof. IF those expectations were NOT communicated, then I don't think they can be expected, even if they're commonplace. If they were communicated, then they certainly can be.

What we DON'T know, is whether those expectations were communicated or not.

excon

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Hello again, tick:

Maybe we don't disagree all that much... And, no. We're not that different than you...

You used the phrase what they "expect", and I used the phrase "unrealized expectations". The distinction between those two points, is communication, or lack thereof. IF those expectations were NOT communicated, then I don't think they can be expected, even if they're commonplace. If they were communicated, then they certainly can be.

What we DON'T know, is whether those expectations were communicated or not.

excon

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Hey, yes, I think you are right. You have a way with words, although I knew that going in to this thread.

Kindest regards

Tick

A person on salary still can't just leave their work are without permission. So merely tell her that in the future she can not leave work without prior permission, that is easy to solve.

As a salary worker if I merely left, I would be fired tomorrow.