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Originally Posted by ScottGem

The things is they have to prove their claim, you don't have to prove yours. Your defense is that you never opened the account that it was a case of fraud. They will have to produce evidence that it was actually you who opened the account.

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And what happens if the judge or the plaintiff does produce evidence and you were deny it?

Can you be arrested?

Can you start a business and move your personal belonging to that business , to an INC or LLC?

How do u transfer personal property and make it part of a business and no longer personal.

Im talking about protecting my computer and home office equipment.

With only copies of the credit card statement but nothing else you asked for in the Debt Validation letter


Do I respond with another letter telling them, I dispute their validation attempt?


What do you do?

Can you walk me step by step on this


Small claims court or civil court?

etc. etc.

What sample form can I use ?

Or can this be sold to yet another law firm or collection agency?

If u win, is that it for that debt?


You have to get a "with prejudice" ruling, right?

You have three posts, all seemingly unrelated. In order to get the proper information and/or advice, why don't you just outline the entire problem, if they are all related. Otherwise many different members will be answering each one with many posts. I am only thinking of you sifting through each one to get to the heart of matter, silverstein.

Regards

Tick

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Originally Posted by tickle

You have three posts, all seemingly unrelated. In order to get the proper information and/or advice, why dont you just outline the entire problem, if they are all related. Otherwise many different members will be answering each one with many posts. I am only thinking of you sifting through each one to get to the heart of matter, silverstein.

regards

tick

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Hey thanks I understand

No I'm just trying to get info on this on a separate level, on how this works.

Anyone heard of this and what happens to that verdict?

I hear it in various forms across this forum and across the net.

What does a JUDGE consider proper debt validation, what is the stated law

For example is it

1. Signed Copy of the Application
2. All statements from 0 to whatever the debt
3.?
4.?


Just want a complete list of what is considered proper debt validation.

I.e. if one files for bankrupcty without the spouse

How does personal property get sorted out?

i.e. Television, Telephone, Refrigerator, etc.

Hi, silverstein. I think the following website will give you a start in collecting information. If my link does not take you directly, you will have to cut and paste, sorry.

www.hoyes.com/bankruptcy-affects-spouse.

Tick

Good info on how the dark side works


Can Your Law Firm "Legally" Collect Purchased Debt?


Be careful, the following sites are a little scary looking... :p


Credit & Collection Books, Consulting, Book Review Services and Writing Resources


Credit and Collections Association

LOL, yes, I see. You have been doing your homework, silverstein !

Tick

Hello s:

Your corporation buys the items from you with a corporate CHECK.

You talked about "protecting" them, but if you're protecting them from a judgment, what you're doing is NOT protecting them, but committing fraud.

But, like tick said, I'm sure my answer would be better if you gave me some detail to work with.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello s:

You talked about "protecting" them, but if you're protecting them from a judgment, what you're doing is NOT protecting them, but committing fraud.


excon

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Committing fraud, by 'removing' computer and files, had occurred to me too, but my answer would have been unqualified, so didn't want to pitch in. Yes, OP should offer more details as to his problem and intentions.

Tick

I've merged all your threads because they all seem to deal with your debt issues. Its better to keep all your related questions in one thread to get the best answers.

First, if you want to transfer porperty to a corporation, you have to have the corp buy the property from you. But then the cash becomes part of your personal assets, which would defest the purpose.

Second, the courts will want proof you contracted for the debt. Generally it's a signed contract, but with Internet applications, there are other ways to present proof.

If they don't provide sufficient validation then you go to court and ask the judge for a dismissal. A Dismissal with prejudice is final.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello s:

Your corporation buys the items from you with a corporate CHECK.

You talked about "protecting" them, but if you're protecting them from a judgment, what you're doing is NOT protecting them, but committing fraud.

But, like tick said, I'm sure my answer would be better if you gave me some detail to work with.

excon

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Oh no I wasn't trying to imply that I was trying to do something illegal.

I haven't been sued or anything.

I was talking about starting an INC and then protecting assets there.

Am I not able to start an INC because I MIGHT be sued? Just asking, not stating in a mean voice. Lol

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

Generally its a signed contract, but with Internet applications, there are other ways to present proof.

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Can you explain this please


You mean they don't have to show signed contracts anymore?

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Am I not able to start an INC because I MIGHT be sued?

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Hello again, s:

Starting and running a corporation ISN'T the fraud. Transferring assets that would be subject to seizure should a lawsuit be lost, IS the fraud.

So, I wonder why you used the term "protect" your assets. They're no more "protected" when owned by a corporation, or stored in your basement.

excon

Thanks excon

What if you never been summons by any CA? Can you still start a INC and not worry about transferring property?

But I see what you also mean by stored in your basement.