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  • Apr 7, 2009, 10:29 AM
    stillfading
    NC, girlfriend moving out for "space" and cheating?
    Girlfriend and I lived together for over a year. She used to get really jealous (more than I could handle) of other females (I only had 1-2 female friends) and so I gave them up for her. Also about my past (3 girls, I am 22.. not bad). Also accusing me of looking at girls (I don't, I'm a romantic type, never have cheated) and not wanting me to go out a lot without her socially. Low self esteem. I gave up my music, friends, and a LOT for her because she would complain. I used to get really angry because I thought it was wrong but did it to make her happy.

    She moved from miami to the west coast FOR ME and school. She has no family here. She made friends, everything cool. She started to complain we weren't going out enough, I wasn't showing her attention. That is true in some respects, but BS because we DID go out and as I mentioned, I stopped doing a lot to spend more time with her. We both work and go to school so that doesn't help.

    She started acting suspicious and we would get in fights. She would constantly and be in bad moods when she came home (not involving me) and just seemed so unhappy. She would randomly go out for weird excuses. She wouldn't sleep with me for 2 months and said she was just stressed. I tried to talk with her and tell her what can I do? She's not very good at communicating.

    After all this, I started to think there was someone else. Not accusing her, just asking her what the hell is going on. I can FEEL something different. She said there's no spark. She randomly took off to California for a weekend. Always out, spending night at a friend's, just being so weird! UGHHHH.

    We got into some really bad fights. I messed up really bad and said so many things I don't mean when I get angry. I just know there is more she won't say. I'm so incredibly sorry and apologized (she says things too). Well, we had a good weekend and she wrote me a nice love letter saying we are starting over. 3 days without a fight and on the 4th she send me a text at work... she's moving out! She needs space Come home and she's gone. Says she's at a friend's house. Then I find out it's a friend's sister but won't tell me or her parents in miami where. I get our phone bill (lists all the numbers our lines talk to) and see a number she texts HUNDREDS of times a DAY for days on end up until like 9 pm. Heart sinks. I find out who it is and don't tell her, hoping she confesses. She weaves so many lies and finally tell her I know where she lives and who that number is. She calls me a stalker and psychotic. I just want to know what's going on! Breaking my heart.

    Turns out, it's a 30 year old guy with a kid (my girlfriend is 20) that is separated from his wife and "supposedly" they all live with his 32 year old sister. IS SHE BANGING THIS GUY? He goes to our college.

    She talks to me one day, the next she don't. She tells me she wants to fix our problems and just wants physical space but wants to talk and still see each other. Just needed to get away from the fighting. Cool. But when I would call she would get soooo upset over nothing, so I went NC. She would break it and get so upset at me for "ignoring" her.

    To add to my stupid problems, I told multiple friends I knew in Miami about what is going on, and they told me she has a past a lotttt different from what she told me. Apparently, she has been with more guys, is a flirt, and has cheated on guys before. Now, I have no problem with a woman's past but why lie? ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THIS MOVING OUT GOING ON!!!

    I confronted her and she got upset and said some of it was true but some was not. Never admitting to cheating. I don't even care. She's a liar and she basically told me "so what. i didnt want u to judge me. its none of your business!"

    I am trying to forget her. Help me out. Is she telling the truth about JUST LIVING with this guy because she has no family here and honestly just wants space to heal like she says? Or is all this suspicious stuff and BS lies a cover and I'm the option in case this new guy don't work out?
  • Apr 7, 2009, 10:30 AM
    stillfading

    I am 2 days in NC and she keeps texting me again but every time I would call to hangout like she wants, she's busy (yes, I get it).

    And she won't talk at night or in morning, only while she's out.. hmmmmm
  • Apr 7, 2009, 10:39 AM
    artlady

    From this vantage point,it would seem that she has found someone to replace you BUT she is not willing to let you go completely in case the new guy doesn't work out.

    As far as what friends are telling you,I would pay that very little attention.

    I would continue with NC.That means NO contact,not sometimes.If its going to help you heal and move on,you need to do it for the right reasons and stick to it.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 11:24 AM
    I wish

    Oh man, this sounds like a horrible relationship. You got to get out of this asap. You not only have to do NC, but you have to block her out of your life. I can't even see her being a good friend in the future.

    As harsh as it sounds, she keeps too many secrets. She's accusing you of things that she's been doing herself.

    No more wanting to see her. You are too much of a pushover. You let her walk all over you and she's still dragging you along now. Sorry to sound so harsh again.

    You should be done with this relationship. Time to move on with your life and find someone who respects you.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 11:57 AM
    slapshot_oi
    I glanced through your post and these things jumped out at me.
    • You're not even suspect of cheating: you're 22 and have been with three girls. This isn't a problem, but most girls would be thrilled to find someone like you.
    • You sacrificed your social life
    • You sacrificed a hobby for her. You gave up music? That hurts to read, I gig every weekend.
    • She calls you a stalker

    You'll never be good enough for her because all that crap she's spewing is what she really thinks of herself; she's projecting her own problems on to you.

    She's intentionally mistreating you. Cut her off, don't ask about her, don't call her, don't pick up the phone, avoid her, ignore her, and if she hates it... good!

    It seems you've already caught her in a lie so she probably has more skeletons in the closet that would knock you on your a$$. No good will come out of you knowing the truth, it'll only hurt you.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 12:07 PM
    stillfading

    Thank u! Yeah its really bugging me if she is actually sleeping with this new guy. I can't fathom since he's 11 years older and with a kid.

    I don't see why she would leave her family, school, and life behind to go and cheat on me with someone with baggage she just met.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 12:11 PM
    stillfading
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by slapshot_oi View Post
    I glanced through your post and these things jumped out at me.
    • You're not even suspect of cheating: you're 22 and have been with three girls. This isn't a problem, but most girls would be thrilled to find someone like you.
    • You sacrificed your social life
    • You sacrificed a hobby for her. You gave up music? That hurts to read, I gig every weekend.
    • She calls you a stalker

    You'll never be good enough for her because all that crap she's spewing is what she really thinks of herself; she's projecting her own problems on to you.

    She's intentionally mistreating you. Cut her off, don't ask about her, don't call her, don't pick up the phone, avoid her, ignore her, and if she hates it... good!

    It seems you've already caught her in a lie so she probably has more skeletons in the closet that would knock you on your a$$. No good will come out of you knowing the truth, it'll only hurt you.

    THIS... is what I will be coming back to when I have my weak moments. Thank you so much!

    Sadly, I caved in to all her texts. She owes me over $500 for her school and other bills and I KNOW I need to cut my losses, but being a young student that money matters. I told her about bills so we'll see.

    And I ended it with: "if you want any kind of relationship with me you need to show me"
  • Apr 7, 2009, 12:13 PM
    starlite1

    Hi Stillfading,

    Everyone is right. You need to let her go for good. You are too good of a guy to be treated this way. You can and will do so much better.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 01:43 PM
    Lowtax4eva

    There's no way your ex (btw her "needing space" is crap... she dumped you but didn't have enough decency to say it) is living with some guy and is NOT sleeping with him.

    She talks to you when he is not around cause she is unsure it will work out with him.

    As everyone said stop all contact with her and move on.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 01:51 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stillfading View Post
    thank u! yeah its really bugging me if she is actually sleeping with this new guy. i can't fathom since he's 11 years older and with a kid.

    i dont see why she would leave her family, school, and life behind to go and cheat on me with someone with baggage she just met.

    Some people don't appreciate being treated well.
    I see many young girls who go for the tough guy or the guy that seems like he could care less about you. Its an indication of immaturity.
    There is some truth to the saying*nice guys finish last*.
    The good thing about sayings is that there are exceptions and there is a girl out there who will appreciate you.
    Take a break from women for a time and then when you do resume dating,remember to protect yourself emotionally.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 03:09 PM
    artlady

    Quote:

    I wish agrees: What's up with that? Are nice guys too weak?
    I think many young girls ,and I mean girls that are immature are attracted to the thrill of the bad boy.Maybe they like the challenge of thinking they can change someone.
    I have two sons,one is the sweetest guy who would do just about anything for a girl and he is always meeting girls who use him.The other,still a sweetie but is rather nonchalant has girls chasing after him.
    Go figure ?
  • Apr 7, 2009, 03:16 PM
    artlady

    I don't mean to bogart this thread but there is an interesting article entitled *why nice guys finish last*.I think it is worth reading.
    Why Nice Guys Finish Last - ABC News
  • Apr 7, 2009, 05:28 PM
    liz28

    You lose yourself in this girl because you did everything she demanding you too in a flash. She most likely thought of you as a puppet than a boyfriend. You gave up music, friends, etc. Don't you know when you make someone your everything, when they leave you have nothing.

    Don't repeat that same mistake again in the future. Don't let your feelings over ride your common sense. Be aware of everything and if something doesn't makes sense than more than likely it's a lie.

    Go back to NC and don't talk to this girl again--even if she contact you. No more games!
  • Apr 7, 2009, 06:45 PM
    stillfading

    Thanks all. I got the phone bill and wow... trip to cali... was with this guy. Last Friday she blew me off and went with this guy... we separated accounts and I went to login and surprise... she's on his account now. Ugh.

    It finally hit me right now. :(
  • Apr 8, 2009, 04:08 AM
    Dare81
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stillfading View Post
    THIS.... is what i will be coming back to when i have my weak moments. thank you so much!

    sadly, i caved in to all her texts. she owes me over $500 for her school and other bills and I KNOW i need to cut my losses, but being a young student that money matters. I told her about bills so we'll see.

    and i ended it with: "if you want any kind of relationship with me you need to show me"

    Why would you want to get back with her.She cheated on you.Get your money from her if you can and let it be.You are better off without her.
  • Apr 8, 2009, 04:46 AM
    talaniman
    Sorry for your loss. But you have to be happy you can get your life back, and not live a lie any more.

    Forget the money, take the freedom. You have already spent too much time on a female that doesn't appreciate a good man, and was needy, selfish, and frustrating most of the time. This is a true blessing in disguise.
  • Apr 8, 2009, 02:12 PM
    stillfading

    Thanks guys, almost done with day 1 of NC again.

    Rough night last night, but looking forward to staying strong this time! It's time I really do this for myself as you guys have all said
  • Apr 8, 2009, 02:44 PM
    none12345
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stillfading View Post
    thanks guys, almost done with day 1 of NC again.

    rough night last night, but looking forward to staying strong this time! it's time i really do this for myself as you guys have all said

    Yah man sounds horrible. Sometimes we just got to be strong for ourselves. Stay in NC, ill be doing NC with you. Its been hell but I'm on my 3rd week of NC. She left me for another guy too and its been really hard. But keep up with NC its for the best. She was my first love and I'm 20, so its extra hard. Anyway yah whenever they leave us for someone else I don't think we can be with them ever again. That's what I've learned maybe its just me.
  • Apr 8, 2009, 02:49 PM
    stillfading

    Yeah bro I'm 22 so we are pretty close emotionally most likely. I will get to your 3 weeks and beyond! These girls really messed up
  • Apr 8, 2009, 03:01 PM
    none12345
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stillfading View Post
    yeah bro i'm 22 so we are pretty close emotionally most likely. i will get to your 3 weeks and beyond! these girls really messed up

    So how's it going buddy? How do you feel about everything?

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