Can your vehicle be searched when Officer had no real reason to detain you

If the officer thinks there is something suspicious, then I guess he/she can and in some cases I am glad they are that observant !

All they have to do is say they smelled marijuana.It is becoming a very popular excuse for searching.

Hi arty, they said I have to spread the rep around, so yes, good answer. There have been many drug busts in our rural area because they still try to grow it in the middle of a corn field when they know they are patroled by helicopters. I have been up in the air with them and the marijauna plants are fairly obvious amongst the corn stocksbecause they are a different shade of green, dah! They haven't figured that out yet.

Exactly, nothing more obvious then the aroma of weed.

Your version of no basis for stopping you and theirs for stopping you will be very different - I guarantee it.

Their new reason is you are not wearing your seatbelt.

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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

Their new reason is you are not wearing your seatbelt.

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And around here Police are breaking tail lights AFTER the stop and then that's the reason for the stop.

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Originally Posted by lisa shaeffer

Can your vehicle be searched when Officer had no real reason to detain you

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Hello lisa:

NO, they cannot. However, it isn't as easy as that. There are big lawbooks written on this very subject, so I can't cover all the contingencies here. Whomever had this happen to them needs a lawyer.

To my fellow experts:

Instead of chuckling about how your local police are violating your neighbors rights, why don't you DO something about it?? If you don't, it's YOUR rights NEXT.

excon

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To my fellow experts:

Instead of chuckling about how your local police are violating your neighbors rights, why don't you DO something about it?? If you don't, it's YOUR rights NEXT.

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Hay Excon,I did that very thing about two years ago when I saw an officer assault my neighbor.I was there for the entire time and she did nothing to provoke him.When I asked for his badge and name I was told to mind my own f... ing business or I was going to jail.I asked again stating what I believed to be my right to do.Name and badge.I was calm and polite in my request.He pulled me down the stairs.barefoot,and I was arrested.Governmental interference was my charge.I wanted to take it to court but as my lawyer pointed out who do you think a jury will believe you or a cop? I was RORed.
Irony.. I was arrested on National police brutality day.October 22.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello lisa:

NO, they cannot. However, it isn't as easy as that. There are big lawbooks written on this very subject, so I can't cover all the contingencies here. Whomever had this happen to them needs a lawyer.

To my fellow experts:

Instead of chuckling about how your local police are violating your neighbors rights, why don't you DO something about it??? If you don't, it's YOUR rights NEXT.

excon

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Assuming I am one of the experts you are addressing, I wasn't chuckling over the violation of my neighbors' rights. I do plenty of pro bono work on these cases, gathering statements from witnesses. I have simply never been in a position to personally witness Police brutality, a set up, whatever you want to call it so that is how I pay my dues.

I was simply stating what happens in my area, no "chuckling." Please don't lump me into the "the Police should beat up citizens and avoid the rules" category.

And, no, I don't hate all Cops. I don't hate all ex-cons either. I also have the balls to say so. Well, maybe not "the balls" but you get my drift here, I trust.

Good thing I secretly love you or I'd drive to wherever you are and smack you upside the head.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for our local constabulary which includes an Ontario Provincial Police detachment in town. Both units have their hands full in our rural areas with the upswing of marijauna development anywhere farmers, or whoever, feel safe in planting it. As you know it is a lucrative business with millions of dollars in street value. I am not telling anyone here, anything new. At the same time I have a few clients who can buy it legally because it is used for pain control where nothing else works for certain pain disabilities, i.e. inoperable cancer tumors.

I often chuckle at the thought of the police burning mounds of marijuana plants and wondering how they handle the high they must get from being close to the fumes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think most cops do a pretty decent job. Sure, you get the a-hole cop every now and again; they're even more prominent in the big cities. All the cops in my town are pretty great guys.

However, there's a town about 20 minutes away that I hate driving through. I won't even have a drink with dinner in that town because they'll pull you over for a burned out license plate bulb, for not signaling, for "swerving." The paper for that town prints a Police Blotter; one of the officers was in a public parking lot, which also happens to be the parking lot for the biggest restaurant/bar in that town. He was running plates and his reasoning - here's the kicker - was that he was looking for STOLEN CARS. Big surprise, he pulled over a car that left the parking lot and slapped the guy with a DUI. I really hate that town... anyway.

If a cop really wants to, s/he will make up an excuse to do anything at anytime and they'll deem it probable cause. But that's the minority, in my experience. Most of them are just trying to do their job.

Hi, 8384, I was told once that I had a 'small town mentality' for plugging our cops. We have about 4000 people here and during the summer it is a tourist attraction because of our lovely beaches on Lake Ontario. That brings in a lot of people thinking they can buck the system and drink in the park when it is clearly posted it is inst allowed. So, yes, some become belligerent when called on it by a local officer and then he gets called a pig for doing his job and called a 'hick' on top of that! but in most cases, these are visitors from Toronto area where the population is 5.5 million people, where the cops probably turn a blind eye to most offences like that because they are much bigger issues to deal with like drug cartels, armed robberies and drive by shootings.

Tick

Hi excon, from what I read in the paper every day, and I do get all of the major editions, police culture isn't so much different then yours, same problems on a daily basis. And, hey, have you noticed you are right next door! :)

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Hi, 8384, I was told once that I had a 'small town mentality' for plugging our cops. We have about 4000 people here and during the summer it is a tourist attraction because of our lovely beaches on Lake Ontario. That brings in a lot of people thinking they can buck the system and drink in the park when it is clearly posted it is inst allowed. So, yes, some become belligerent when called on it by a local officer and then he gets called a pig for doing his job and called a 'hick' on top of that!, but in most cases, these are visitors from Toronto area where the population is 5.5 million people, where the cops probably turn a blind eye to most offences like that because they are much bigger issues to deal with like drug cartels, armed robberies and drive by shootings.

tick

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Didn't mean to hijack the thread but I think the OP has been answered.

I just wanted to tell you that I have caught many a fish on Our shared beautiful Lake Ontario but lake-effect snow often reaches inland to Syracuse, which often takes the crown for the most winter snowfall accumulation of any large city in the United States and, on average, receives more snow annually than any other major city in the world. Did I mention I live in Syracuse? Just thought I would share that with you.Are we ready for summer yet?:eek:

Refuse any searches and have your window rolled to a crack if its bud they won't be able to smell it unless you be hotboxing the car
If they ask you to step out of the car and stand on the sidwalk make sure to roll your window up and step out and close and lock your door so they can't either plant anything or try to make a plain view or smell bust

Legally a cop cannot search you or your car until you've been arrested on a charge and if he dissagrees tell him to take you to the station
To see his head officer or whatever its called
He may even threaten to bring in dogs
But its much too much work for them and they'll just give you a ticket ro whateverr for the reason they pulled you