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  • Feb 2, 2009, 01:33 AM
    arcura
    Old Simeon becomes a prophet.
    Today's Gospel (Lk 2:22-40): When the day came for the purification according to the law of Moses, Joseph and Mary brought the baby up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord, as it is written in the law of the Lord: Every firstborn male shall be consecrated to God. And they offered a sacrifice as ordered in the law of the Lord: a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.

    There lived in Jerusalem at this time a very upright and devout man named Simeon; the Holy Spirit was in him. He looked forward to the time when the Lord would comfort Israel, and he had been assured by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before seeing the Messiah of the Lord. So he was led into the Temple by the Holy Spirit at the time the parents brought the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the Law.

    Simeon took the child in his arms and blessed God, saying, «Now, O Lord, you can dismiss your servant in peace, for you have fulfilled your word and my eyes have seen your salvation, which you display for all the people to see. Here is the light you will reveal to the nations and the glory of your people Israel».

    His father and mother wondered at what was said about the child. Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother, «See him; he will be for the rise or fall of the multitudes of Israel. He shall stand as a sign of con­tra­diction, while a sword will pierce your own soul. Then the secret thoughts of many may be brought to light».

    There was also a prophetess named Anna, daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. After leaving her father's home, she had been seven years with her husband, and since then she had been continually about the Temple, serving God as a widow night and day in fasting and prayer. She was now eighty-four. Co­ming up at that time, she gave praise to God and spoke of the child to all who looked forward to the deliverance of Jerusalem.

    When the parents had fulfilled all that was required by the law of the Lord, they returned to their town, Nazareth in Galilee. There the child grew in stature and strength and was filled with wisdom: the grace of God was upon him.
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    ;):confused:What do you make of Simeon's prophesies?:confused:
    In my case they cause me to ponder them in several ways.
    :)Peace and kindness,:)
    Fred
  • Feb 2, 2009, 11:51 AM
    Choux

    What's going on here. Simeon was filled with the Holy Spirit?

    Didn't it say in the Book of John that Jesus would sent the Mighty Counsellor, the Holy Spirit to the throngs who loved him to help them with their faith?

    So, the Holy Spirit existed before John said, and even before Jesus?
  • Feb 2, 2009, 01:41 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux View Post
    What's going on here. Simeon was filled with the Holy Spirit?

    Didn't it say in the Book of John that Jesus would sent the Mighty Counsellor, the Holy Spirit to the throngs who loved him to help them with their faith??

    So, the Holy Spirit existed before John said, and even before Jesus??

    Yes most assuredly The Holy Spirit as well as Our Father, and Christ have always been.
    Exampled in
    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Christ was the Word made flesh, and the Word was inspired by The Holy Spirit.

    Example 2 would be that we can not say that Christ was without the Holy Spirit.. 1 Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 01:45 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    Today's Gospel (Lk 2:22-40)

    confused:What do you make of Simeon's prophesies?:confused:
    In my case they cause me to ponder them in several ways.
    :)Peace and kindness,:)
    Fred

    Luke 2: 34-35 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

    The baby Jesus would set testmony against the "sign of evil"....And a sword that would pierce Christ Jesus heart of soul, would bring thoughts to the hearts of many people revealing truth.

    Revelation 6:8-10 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

    And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
  • Feb 2, 2009, 03:12 PM
    arcura
    Choux
    You are right.
    The Holy Spirit IS eternal.
    Fred

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