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  • Jan 25, 2009, 04:42 AM
    bicepman4000
    Chemtrails, do you believe?
    Ok, so I was going to put this in the aviation folder but thought better of it. Is anyone else concerned about chemtrails.

    For those unfamiliar to the term, aeroplanes sometimes leave contrails which are trails of condensation from their jets. So why do some leave them and some don't? And why is it sometimes you see "contrails" in grid type patterns across the sky?

    I've been reading a little about this on the net and never though much of it. I am from Australia, and conspiracy theories about this say they happen a lot over Europe and the US. So I was recently in Europe and the day I seen it clearest was in the Czech Republic, there were about 10 "contrails" in a precise grid formation. The next day I seen 2 planes, one leaving a "contrail" and one leaving nothing.

    Can someone explain this away with atmospherics? I'm not saying we are being sprayed, but I can't explain what I have seen with my own eyes
  • Jan 25, 2009, 08:59 AM
    twinkiedooter

    Ten Years Into The
    Chemtrail-Wars
    The Breakdown Of The Immune System
    By Ilya Sandra Perlingieri, PhD
    Ilya Sandra Perlingieri, Ph.D.
    2009 All rights reserved
    1-22-9

    This winter of discontent, the New England states have been hit with one after another particularly strange snowstorms. The previous 2007-08 winter was also similar. The snow smells full of chemicals, as it comes down uniformly and looks like manufactured snow that is used on ski slopes (i.e. fluffy, packed powder). Sometimes, the falling snow stops abruptly, and does not trail off, as it used to do. It is definitely not the same snow that, for millions of years, used to be provided by Mother Nature, in all her magnificence.

    Snow is now provided by the US military, the Pentagon, and commercial planes especially equipped to dump on us highly toxic aerosols, from various altitudes. No doubt, these chemical mixtures are created in some secret US bio-weapons laboratory. With enormous egotistical hubris, the Air Force is already on record as saying that they "want to own the weather by 2025."(1) No longer a Star Trek or Star Wars movie fantasy, some of this is already a reality with the now more than 60 Clandestine Weather Modification programs that assault us daily. Despite this, there is a weather news blackout about Chemtrails. The exception is meteorologist Kevin Martin who reports Chemtrails on his website.

    There has been absolutely NO PUBLIC DISCUSSION about Chemtrails! Over the past 10 years, not one public official has replied to the countless concerned citizen phone calls or letters. That's due to these "programs [being] secret because the Federal EPA and State Environmental Quality Agencies need to 'not know' about the by-products of the metabolites of biological, illegal, and [extremely] harmful agents are. It is for that reason the projects [have] been declared secret from citizens. It is all illegal under federal and state law."(2) Congress is complicit in this cover-up. So, we are the unwitting guinea pigs in a now global military assault of such magnitude that they are massive war crimes. Federal agencies may deliberately want not to know, but, nevertheless, Chemtrails continue to affect us detrimentally.

    According to United States Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Section 1520a, it is illegal "to use a civilian population for testing of chemical or biological agents." Will Thomas, who also has been writing about Chemtrails for a decade, has a Chemtrail Petition to Congress posted on his website:Chemtrails Congresisonal Petition

    This past year, there has been an increase in supposed "unexplained" spontaneous nosebleeds of such severity (as if a water faucet had been turned on full tilt) that they require emergency hospital care. I know of several instances where people (both on the East and West coasts) have been rushed to a hospital because the nose-bleeding would not stop. This seems to affect elderly as well as the very young. Allopathic doctors seem baffled and have no explanation as to why there is this increase.

    These serious nosebleeds are not happening just for humans. All mammals are also affected. Several people I know with dogs and cats that have had water-faucet nosebleeds. Last year, I had to rush my own calico cat to the Vet, as her nose would not stop bleeding. The Vet had no explanation.

    However, those who read the reliable Chemtrail literature ­most especially Clifford Carnicom's outstanding website [<http://www.carnicom.com>www.carnicom.com] and Will Thomas' website [<http://www.willthomasonline.net>www.willthomasonline.net]-- are aware of the link between breathing high levels of barium-laced air and what it is detrimentally doing to all of us, including its dangerous effect on our entire immune system Environmentally, among other things, Chemtrails are dramatically changing "the salt levels in our soils."(3) Mr. Carnicom (whom I have had the great pleasure of meeting and discussing this nightmare poisoning) has been one of the outstanding private citizen researchers who has been reporting for more than 10 years about the deadly effects of Chemtrails. Dr. Gwen Scott, ND, is also reporting some of the disastrous illnesses that now are linked to Chemtrail toxicity. A copyright free and highly informative documentary is available for a nominal fee on his website. This DVD should be required viewing for everyone.

    Barium is an earth mineral; and, as numerous researchers have reported, it is known to be toxic to all mammals. Now, it is used to poison us. It is part of the aerosolized, chemical brew that is in our air, snow, and rain we breathe. Aerosol release of barium is associated with having less oxygen to breathe. It is also linked with increased sinus pressure and uncontrolled nosebleeds. This past week, several friends told me that they had had nosebleeds so severe that it took more than 20 minutes to stop. During this latest snowstorm, I believe possibly there were more chemicals added to the already toxic brew that was dumped on us. Two friends called me and said that several hours later, after blood had coagulated in their nostrils, when they blew their noses, another nosebleed the ensued. This may also mean that fibrinogen, essential for blood-clotting, has been compromised by the constant assault of breathing these illegal poisons for so many years.

    This is not a one-factor issue. Rather, the multiple layers of harmful Chemtrail poisons multiply to dangerous levels that become life threatening. "No case data is available from the medical community on the long-term effects of barium on the human body."(4) We, as an entire population of millions/billions, are the guinea pigs for heinous secret military bio-warfare agendas.

    Other illnesses linked to chronic exposure to Chemtrails also include [This list is expanded from Note #4, see below]:
    1. Lung bleeds (in addition to nosebleeds), high rates of asthma [20-million Americans have it; and of those 6.8 million are children] and other pulmonary allergies. Lung cancer is at an all-time high with 196,252 cases reported in 2007 (the most recent CDC figures available).

    2. Bronchitis, flu-like symptoms, and pneumonia (now at epidemic rates). These are not responding to the usual antibiotics [perhaps in part because of overuse for minor medical illnesses and, also, because it may not be the kind of pneumonia physicians are used to seeing]. "The EPA reports that sub-micron particles bypass lung filters and enter the blood stream, triggering high blood pressure that can cause heart attack within two hours of inhalation. Researchers document 'a significant increase' in the number of stroke victims when PM [particulate matter] pollutant levels rise."(5) Particulate matter air pollution is dangerous with those who have chronic lung diseases, including chronic obstructive pulmonary disease [COPD, which includes bronchitis and emphysema].


    3. Night sweats and/or unexplained fevers [not related to menopause symptoms].


    4. Gastro-intestinal problems (for all ages, and this also includes pets. This may be linked to unexplained chronic vomiting in cats and dogs that also is on the rise).


    5. Skin: Extremely dry and cracked skin and lips (even during warm weather); sores that do not heal or suddenly appear and disappear; fungal infections that do not heal or take a long time to do so; accelerated aging of the skin (sometimes noticeable in a matter of weeks or months).


    6. Hearing: an abrupt or sudden loss of hearing, sometime partial deafness, tinnitus, and dizziness often reported just before or right after storms or new weather fronts, including heavy fog).


    7. Eyes: blurry vision (this, too, can be related to a new, Chemtrail-laden weather front coming in), and an increase in cataracts (even for the young).


    8. Short-term memory loss (due to high rates of aerosol spraying of nano-particles of fiberglass-coated aluminum, a known link with brain dysfunction) and mental confusion or "being in a fog" for young and old alike, especially after heavy fog banks and mists filled with Chemtrail toxins.


    9. Auto-immune disorders on the increase (Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lyme disease, Rheumatoid Arthritis, LUPIS, thyroid disease).

    A brand-new report in the current issue of the journal "Health Affairs"(6) indicates that more Americans are heavily burdened and "experiencing multiple chronic conditionswith three or more chronic illnesses."[see #9, above] "Chronic disease accounts for three-fourths of the more than $2 trillion spent on health care yearly in the United States."(7) While there is this multiple medical burden increase, there is no mention in journal reports of the Chemtrails toxicity links. Again, a massive cover-up and the need "not to know" continues to put us a high risk.

    Obviously, this is an extremely complex problem. We are now living in a world heavily polluted with more than 100,000 chemicals, most of which have never been tested for human safety, as I have noted in my book, "The Uterine Crisis."(8) All of this, quite literally, bodes an extremely grave situation for all of us. Much of these air-born toxins are filled with particulate matter that is highly injurious to our entire, already greatly compromised, immune system. Particulate matter also can target our lungs and cause havoc from asthma (now at record numbers) to cardio-pulmonary illnesses.(9)

    Over the past eight years, we have witnessed the deliberate destruction of 30 years of environmental laws by the Bush Administration. This has greatly eased and/or eliminated any corporate accountability and responsibility ­but it comes at our expense. So, now we are living in a nation ­just barely- that has ignored or destroyed basic Constitutional laws ratified, more than 200-years ago, in 1787. Now, we have a third stolen election with support from a compliant and complicit Congress and Judiciary, with tremendous help from a corporate-controlled mass media. This situation leaves the majority of American's totally clueless as to what has actually is happening in our now lost country.

    While the rule of law in our country is gone, Marshall Law is now set in place for nefarious and illegal reasons. Without our original Constitutional rules and environmental laws to guide us --many set in place for our safety and to protect us- it is a crap shot for any reliable, good health. Our immune systems are now under daily, toxic assault.

    It is likely that medical journals will, in due course, report "unexplained" illnesses, including these serious nosebleeds.(9) To date, however, there appears to be no interest or awareness of our on-going crisis.


    On a clear morning, after a three-day snowstorm, the sun has finally come out. My Winter Garden is completely covered with snow. The evergreens are draped in their white mantle. The blue jays, doves, chickadees, and goldfinches are perched high up in the oak, sugar maple, and pine trees. Spots of their blue, tan, and gold feathers stand out amidst the sparkling snow. Somewhere nearby, I hear a woodpecker tapping away. It looks like a picture-perfect, idyllic winter scene.

    However, these days in our US Orwellian world, scenes from our daily lives can be greatly deceiving.

    It is the day before an illegal US inauguration, made even tragically more so because this is the first black man in our history to supposedly "be elected" president. Although he may quote Dr. Martin Luther King on this day of remembrance, he is unfit to carry Dr. King's mantle forward.(10) Over the past few months many lawsuits have been brought forth about his questionable status as a Constitutionally "natural born citizen." They have been dismissed --even by our Supreme Court, the highest court in the land. Checks and balances are now gone. The Constitutional illegality of his assuming this role, means we have a third stolen election. What does it mean when he takes an oath of office "to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States"? Was it, perhaps, a guilty conscience, where the words of the Oath of Office were flubbed, as noted in The New York Times?(11) So, now we have another governmental sham. Henceforth, all laws that will be passed are, de facto, Constitutionally illegal. How many Americans know this, given that the media no longer is independent of deliberate bias and corruption?

    For a short time, the Chemtrail artificial clouds in this morning's sky are nowhere to be seen. The blanket of white fluff that I shoveled this morning, so the birds could have some seeds to eat, has an unmistakable awful chemical smell. The air is no longer fresh and clean, as it used to be. Having tested my snow in 2007, I know that this smell comes from the poisons that invisibly cover my garden ­poisons that include barium, aluminum, and other toxic micro-organisms. I am not the only one who has had snow or rain tested. Reports are confirmed all over the US, as well as from Germany and Italy.(12) This no longer is the snow of my childhood in which I played all bundled up in my snowsuit and woolen mittens, sledded, made snowmen, and laughed with glee as I threw snowballs. This white "beauty" that surrounds my garden is a complete illusion. My garden, and every other one where the snow has fallen around New England, is now a poisoned blanket ­one that will eventually melt and then continue to poison the soil and ground water. It will continue to poison all the mammals in my garden: the squirrels, mice, rabbits, deer, moose, the hedgehogs, and even our neighborhood feral cats.

    Within less than an hour, as I am writing this essay, the somewhat washed-out blue sky has been supplanted by a blanket of grey sky. Not individual clouds of a grey winter morning, these are a cover of Chemtrail poisons. Within less than two hours, from horizon to horizon, the sky is now a monochromatic, pearly white. The snow is no longer safe. It will poison all those children who love to play in the snow. I worry tremendously about the extreme dangers Chemtrail-laden snow poses to my innocent grandchildren. Chemtrails are poisoning everything.

    Extrapolating from the New England states blanketed with heavy snowfall or torrential rains in the southeast, this means that we are completely covered in a poisonous brew of chemicals ­the exact composition of which is only known secretly to the US military and their malevolent researchers. These poisons enter our bodies, not just by breathing and the food we eat, but also though the untested heinous use of nanotechnology.
  • Jan 25, 2009, 08:59 AM
    twinkiedooter
    Article continuation...

    For those who know of the importance of eating a safer organic foods, these are now compromised (even with the now meaningless FDA organic seal), because they have been grown (or fed) in Chemtrail-laden soil that has covered us for more than 10 years. The poisons are now throughout the entire food chain and a complex, but rapidly deteriorating web of life.

    Where is the entire organic community of farmers, companies, non-profit organizations, and millions of Americans who spend more for food that is supposedly safer? Why are they not demanding a total cessation of Chemtrail poisoning? The entire raison d'etre for this multi-billion dollar organics movement is to have a SAFER FOOD SUPPLY! Where is any real food safety with toxic Chemtrail aerosols? The FDA organic label no longer has any meaning when the soil and water are so heavily laden with Chemtrail poisons. Do we get it? We are eating poisoned "organic" food? It is an oxymoron. Why isn't this entire ORGANICS community with its huge financial clout pressuring those in charge to have this insanity stopped?

    Now this toxicity is in food chain. We humans are at the very top of this deadly food chain ­deliberately poisoned by those in the military and other governmental agencies supposedly established to protect us. This invisible scenario is wrecking total havoc for our entire web-of-life. As I have repeatedly written:
    INVISIBLE DOES NOT MEAN SAFE.
    So now, when it snows we have, I believe, a growing epidemic of uncontrollable nosebleeds and other illnesses that are directly attributable to the toxicity of these illegal Chemtrail aerosols. They continue to severely damage our now compromised "health," while those in charge are still not held accountable for this grave and deliberate damage! Dr. Joyce R. Young, ND, has told me on several occasions that: "Americans are not sick enough yet. That's why nothing is being done."

    As illnesses are rapidly increasing, the time is exceeding short for any remedies. Is that the elite's plan? What kind of healthy, productive lives can any of us REALISTICALLY HAVE, when we are being deliberately poisoned every day? How will our children and grandchildren survive in this poisoned atmosphere? Millions of them are already critically ill. Can we yet wake up, DEMAND a cessation of this on-going poisonous nightmare, and gather together the urgently needed grassroots peaceful political will, while there are enough citizens who still have some health remaining? Where is our collective moral outrage?

    Clifford Carnacom has an excellent website devoted to Chemtrails also. Well worth reading.
  • Jan 25, 2009, 09:01 AM
    twinkiedooter
    Article contination...

    Educator and environmental writer Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri is the author of "The Uterine Crisis," which London's "The Ecologist" notes is "a must read."


    NOTES:

    1, An August 1996 paper presented to USAF, "Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025."See:Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

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    2. See: http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documen..._America-2,htm

    3. See: Clifford E. Carnicom. "The Salts of our Soils." www.Carnicom.com/soil.htm

    4. See: "Biological Detection."

    http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documen...America-2,htm; and: "Chemtrails Update June 2008"

    http://www.willthomasonline.net/will...rails_Updates_

    June_2008.html; and "MD Slams Chemtrails" Letter from Dr. J. Michael Pece:

    MD Slams Chemtrails

    5. "Tiny Airborne Particles Pose Grave Health Threat." "Idaho Observer" May/04. Posted Dec. 29, 2003, on:Chemtrails Timeline 2

    6."Health Affairs" The Policy Journal of the Health Sphere. January/February 2009, vol. 28, no. 1:http://content.healthaffairs.org/current.shtml]

    7. Will Dunham. "More Americans getting multiple chronic illnesses." Jan. 6, 2009:www.reuters.com/articleid=USTRE5050S920090106

    8. See also: Ruth Winter's books for listings of thousands of toxic chemicals: "A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives" and "A Consumer's Dictionary of Cosmetic Additives."

    9. A cursory word check for "Chemtrails" or "nosebleeds" this week at various medical websites including, "JAMA" [Journal of the American Medical Association], "The Lancet" in London, Science News, Science Daily and several other medical site came up with nothing. However, JAMA has an article on particulate air pollution that could be linked to the toxicity of persistent Chemtrails. See: C.A. Pope, et al. "Lung Cancer, cardiopulmonary mortality, and long-term exposure to fine particulate air pollution." JAMA. March 6, 2002. Vol. 287, No. 9: 1132-1141.

    10. See: Andrew Hughes. "Betraying the Legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King," Martin Luther King Day precedes the historic inauguration of America's first African American President.

    Betraying the Legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

    11. Adam Liptak. "I Do Solemnly Swear(Line Please?)" The New York Times. Jan. 20, 2009:I Do Solemnly Swear…(Line, Please?) - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

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    12. Dr. Hildegarde Staninger. "Texas Chemtrail Samples Compared to Samples From Venice, Italy." Nov. 27, 2007: www/rense.com/general79/chemm.htm
  • Jan 25, 2009, 09:10 AM
    twinkiedooter
    I personally have sinus problems and nose bleeds caused by the chemtrails. I have a birdbath outside in my yard that several times a year has orange colored substances in the water. I have seen a decline of the birds that I feed also when the water turns orange in the birdbath. I do change out the water regularly every day.

    I wake up with my eyes all red and swollen and a headache from hell.

    The days that the planes spray will usually start all nice and cloudless and blue. Then they start spraying and spraying and use the grid pattern. The white spray from the planes does not dissipate in the sky for about an hour and then very slowly. By the end of the afternoon, the once beautiful blue sky is now clouded over and the sun is only a dull orb in the sky. There usually is some sort of weather front about a day away from Ohio, USA where I live. It is usually over in Indiana or Illinois. The chemtrails draw the weather front over here to Ohio. Within a day there will be rains and more rains, land hurricaines are not uncommon, or snow more snow and extreme weather patterns. Highly unnatural weather is drawn by these chemtrails.

    Am glad you live in Australia where they don't have this sort of spraying. Officially, the chemtrails don't exist here. But I find it odd that there will be a lot of TV advertising for nasal mucus, lung mucus products and sure enough, there comes the planes out spraying again and again making the populace ill. When I lived in South Florida there was no chemtrail spraying as Florida is a peninsula and the chemtrails would just float off into the ocean before they could reach the ground and make everyone ill. Up here in Ohio, they spray and spray so the people to the east of us are made ill with whatever is sprayed here due to the prevailing winds.

    There has even been posted on the net the satellite photos taken of this chemtrail spraying over the USA and over Europe and the Middle East. Anywhere there is a large enough land mass, they are being utilized.
  • Jan 25, 2009, 04:17 PM
    bicepman4000
    I see some planes here in Australia that may be spraying but there is never more 3 or 4 trails at a time. I was really skeptical about the whole thing and didn't think about it for a while. Then we went to Europe for a while and started noticing them, more and more the further we headed west. Then there was the day in the Czech Republic near Carlovy Vary where there was the enormous grid patter covering the whole sky which made even my super skeptical wife take notice. While we were in Euorpe it seemed like we had back to back flus the whole time and I am normally the person that never gets sick. Like you say, the trails slowly disperse and end up creating an overcast day. I talk about it with some people here and they think I'm crazy.
  • Jan 25, 2009, 05:58 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Yes, I hear you about the skeptical people. The very fact you were ill almost continuously tells me that your body does not lie. There are some people on this site who don't believe what they see with their own eyes every day in the sky here in the USA. The other day I saw a very thick trail of white coming from a plane. This white column stayed put in the sky and did not dissipate right away and did not dissipate for well over an hour but stayed the same shape, height above the ground, etc.

    Also, there is something new they are spraying here recently. You think it's a contrail because it dissipates so quickly, but the telltale is the fact it's in the grid pattern.

    Also, a few years ago a friend of mine who files for the military got his glove covered with this substance when he went over to a plane and wiped his gloved hand over the wings. He was told to immediately take the glove off and go get another fresh pair at issuing. He was told that the liquid substance was "toxic". That's interesting coming from our own military.
  • Jan 31, 2011, 11:33 PM
    Acncrndcitizen
    May the people poisioning be set before god on the day of there death to answer to god.

    What I wonder is how do the piolots sleep at night , "money " probably

    Evil begets evil , may god judge all accordingly , and may god have mercy on our souls and protect us all from the evil in the sky. Signed: a concerned citizen of the planet earth.
  • Feb 1, 2011, 04:25 AM
    antilucy
    Huge Chemtrails over Nebraska Panhandle. I got sore throats, Gusher Emergency room nosebleed. Had to have cauterized 600.00 bill We take this fomula to detox made by a California Scientist for himself: Teaspoon of Pure Pomegranate Juice, Teaspoon of Grapeseed oil, Teaspoon Of Braggs Organic Cider Vinegar, Teaspoon of Dry lemon Balm Leaf run through a coffee grinder to make it powder,Teaspoon dry cilantro leaf Grond fine in coffe grinder, 4 drops of Zand Oregano oil,Top off with Organic Apple juice Drink it down at breakfast. Can be done 2x day. Removes Heavy metals quickly. Also 3-4 drops of Zand oil of oregano on cooton swab wet it in water and swab inside of nose to kill virus bacteria & etc. 2x day. Works for me. Wear N95 breathe masks when outside and shower immediately when coming back inside.
  • Feb 1, 2011, 04:40 AM
    antilucy
    This year my garden did very strange things. The soil dried out almost immediately after watering and became as hard as cement. Onion sets planted without mulch went all season and were nearly the same size as when planted Turnips every third one or so made a bulb, carrots were so stunted they were worthless and 2' high tomato plants from the greenhouse set out early grew huge foliage and nearly never ripened the tomatoes I picked them green and ripened inside. Anything mulched was normal. The mulch seems to protect the soil enough from the Barium Salt to allow plants to mature. We must make coldframes and greenhouses to survive this attack. On the net it has been revealed that Monsanto is behind the ChemTrails to take out all Heirloom plants as they are ready to introduce Barium and Aluminum resistant genetically modified franken plants that will survive the Chem Trails. Bill Gates is involved behind the scenes. That is not all that is Involved in the Chemtrails...
  • Feb 1, 2011, 04:57 AM
    antilucy
    The Globalist Elite, Bill Gates Owns part of Monsanto. Warren Buffet Gave huge money as well as Bill Gates and Ted Turner for Population control. By the Georgia Guidestones they want to cull the population to 500,000,000 people. The Chem Trails serve this purpose to weaken our immune systems and do a slow kill so they can make billions on our miserable sicknesses caused by this Chem Trail attack. These elitists are reapng huge profits from their investments in health care facilities and pharmaceutical companies. Make money on our slow deaths! We Americans, Brits and Australians are no longer needed as we have completed our "Consumer Cycle". The third world such as China, India and others that are up and coming Developing nations will provide the billions in profits the world elite want. We have enriched them as far as we can go. Now we are expendable...
  • Feb 1, 2011, 05:08 AM
    antilucy
    They will soon take down our economy with hyperinflation. Get prepared with storage food and water! There will be no where to run. Food , Ammo, fuel and daily commodities will be worth more than gold and silver. You cannot eat gold and silver. The every day citizen will be desperate for food, Water,Ammo and fuel. With hyperinflation, commodities will buffer your losses and can be more readily bartered than precious metals. Preciuos metals are dependent on the system to be used for commerce as the average uninformed Joe will know the worth of Commodities but not the precious metals. Be crazy--store up metals and then try to eat them...
  • Feb 1, 2011, 03:14 PM
    antilucy
    Ask Me Help desk must be cooperating in hiding the anwers as they buried an removed two of my more pointed responses to this issue. I will not be posting on this site again thank you. Who is running your show if you can't leave the truth up for all to see?
  • Feb 1, 2011, 03:18 PM
    antilucy
    Sorry Ask Me Hep Desk! I see you have them back up. Thank You.

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