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  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:10 PM
    ascetic0
    How can I do no contact in this situation?
    It was a 6 year relationship. She ended it one month ago. We still have bills together, obligations, a trip paid for coming up in may and three dogs we share responsibility for. I never contact her first, but she sends texts every day. I still see her a few times a week in short bursts (to pick up the dogs or pay something off, or pick up packages I had coming to her house, maybe get a drink once or twice or lunch).

    She's a very sensitive person and when I tried to do NC at all she responded very hurt and I felt horrible. It didn't change her mind because she's afraid to face anything and its impossible to not every respond to her. She of course says "please just be my friend, i need it right now" and other similar things. She won't take me back (yet, if ever) but can't handle no contact at all.

    I feel too bad for her to not respond. What do I do?
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:33 PM
    ImTotallyLost

    You are probably aware that she's only try to keep you close because she feels alone and having you around helps her. Know, however, that as soon as she finds someone else, she'll disappear from your life.

    So you have to ask yourself if you've already moved on. If you did, than you wouldn't be clinging to any hope and than once she pack-up her emotions and leave for a new boyfriend, you'll probably won't feel bad - you might even feel happy for her.

    But, as is the case on 99.9% of the time, you probably didn't move on and her actions are confusing you. You feel happy when you talk to her and than you feel crappy when you hang up the phone. If that's the case, you need to ignore what she wants and take care of yourself. It shouldn't matter if she needs a friend or what she needs because she broke up with you and it's just unfair that you should satisfy her needs while she isn't satisfying yours.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:44 PM
    sheri scott
    :confused:.It seems like your ex wants her cake and icecream at the same time. She ended the relationship. You say you want NC but I don't think you do if so you would stop answering her text messages, have your bills sent to your new address and weekend vists with your pets at your home. Stop playing cat and mouse get it together you 2. GO HOME.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:47 PM
    ascetic0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ImTotallyLost View Post
    You are probably aware that she's only try to keep you close because she feels alone and having you around helps her. Know, however, that as soon as she finds someone else, she'll disappear from your life.

    So you have to ask yourself if you've already moved on. If you did, than you wouldn't be clinging to any hope and than once she pack-up her emotions and leave for a new bf, you'll probably won't feel bad - you might even feel happy for her.

    But, as is the case on 99.9% of the time, you probably didn't move on and her actions are confusing you. You feel happy when you talk to her and than you feel crappy when you hang up the phone. If that's the case, you need to ignore what she wants and take care of yourself. It shouldn't matter if she needs a friend or what she needs because she broke up with you and it's just unfair that you should satisfy her needs while she isn't satisfying yours.


    That's just about exactly how I feel. I haven't moved on yet but today has been more ups than downs for the first time I guess (I'm finally accepting things more and more I guess... I hope).

    I've basically told her this- that I know what she's doing in other words. She pulls out the "if you really care or love me, you'll just be my friend and not lose hope for the future" but I've lost hope for our future. I haven't seen her change enough and for this either, I'm taking a 3-4 week vacation next Thursday. I know she'll text me or call me every day though. I'm going to take care of myself and have fun. I'm trying to build a life without her but it seems impossible so quickly since we had no many ties that seem so selfish to cut (the dogs for example).
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:51 PM
    ascetic0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sheri scott View Post
    :confused:.It seems like your ex wants her cake and icecream at the same time. She ended the relationship. You say you want NC but I dont think you do if so you would stop answering her text messages, have your bills sent to your new address and weekend vists with your pets at your home. Stop playing cat and mouse get it together you 2. GO HOME.

    Yeah that's how half of me feels. It's like being split into two. One person knowing exactly what's going on and trying to be assertive with her to tell to quit the crap and its her fault. The other person not wanting to be a total low bastard and leaving her without any help.

    We had arrangements and agreements for certain things (like if we broke up, we'd still have to split so-and-so responsability) so I kind of screwed myself there. I don't want to feel like the guy who broke all his promises and be the a**hole exboyfriend.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:58 PM
    ImTotallyLost

    Yeah, forget her. Don't let these emotional threats get to you. Ideally you shouldn't even have to listen to this but you might not be able to do NC because of the dogs. So try to keep low contact. Don't answer to her emotional texts or pleas, only pay attention to the ones that you actually have to act on.

    Cut all the unnecessary ties as soon as you can (pay off all the common bills and pack her stuff and put it in a box so that it's fast for her to take it). When talking pretend you aren't interested and that you don't care about her issues. Make it clear you are only talking to her because there are something's that need to be sorted - bills, dogs, etc. And as soon as you clear everything that needs to be cleared, than go NC.

    And if she ever pull some crap like the "you are losing me as a friend" line, just tell her that _she_ is losing you as a friend because _she_ is being very selfish right now.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:00 PM
    nike 1
    You need to tell her how you feel about this siuation. It's apparent that being the friend is not good for you and I don't blame you for that at all, I would feel the same way. Explain this to her and move on. She can never say you were an A-hole for that. It's not like you just split and ran. And you aren't responsible for her feelings anyway, anymore. She fired you from that job. You really owe her nothing. But you owe yourself a lot. Best wishes!
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:10 PM
    ascetic0

    Thanks for the responses so far- very helpful and reassuring! Here's another complication:

    Her sister bought 4 tickets to Hawaii that were very expensive and nonrefundable. It's in May and I know it's a bit away but it's a weird situation of course.

    I don't want to punish her sister by putting her out of $1200 by not going. And hell, who doesn't want to go? I asked her "what if you're with someone by then?" she said "well then i feel sorry for them because there will be romantic moments... and i wont be with anyone by then."

    I have no idea what to do about that but wait and see how things are closer to the date.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:11 PM
    411Help

    This is not a time to worry about what she wants and what she needs, because, clearly, she made it clear what she wants, and you need to make it clear what you want.

    You need to take care of the financial responsibilities you two have together, then immediately after, cut all contact with her. Keeping in contact with her will only prolong the pain for you. I know, you feel bad for her, but this is the time to make YOURSELF happy.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
    ImTotallyLost

    Dude, you already know what to do. Forget the ticket to Hawaii. Her sister already paid for a non-refundable ticket: that money is lost, so you aren't stealing money from her. Unless you asked her to buy it for you, in which case you can solve the issue by giving her the $1200. In any case, if someone's punishing her sister, it was her, when she broke up with you.

    It seems that you don't want to let go and you are letting her toy you around. Good luck with that.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:19 PM
    ascetic0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ImTotallyLost View Post
    Dude, you already know what to do. Forget the ticket to Hawaii. Her sister already paid for a non-refundable ticket: that money is lost, so you aren't stealing money from her. Unless you asked her to buy it for you, in which case you can solve the issue by giving her the $1200. In any case, if someone's punishing her sister, it was her, when she broke up with you.

    It seems that you don't want to let go and you are letting her toy you around. Good luck with that.

    Yeah you're right. As much as I want to go, I need to just forget it.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:43 PM
    411Help

    Good, now you're learning.

    Get out man. Go for a jog, play some pool, do anything productive to keep your mind off her.

    Anything but talk to her.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:50 PM
    ascetic0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 411Help View Post
    Good, now you're learning.

    Get out man. Go for a jog, play some pool, do anything productive to keep your mind off of her.

    Anything but talk to her.

    I work from home so I learned to go to a local busy coffee shop to get my work done which helps (it's still hard to get anything done but I sure can't do it sitting alone).

    She just sent a text message "hows it goin?". She just won't drop it. She's supposed to be out having fun with someone else. It's like she's keeping me on a string every single day. She'll be surprised as hell when I'm out having a good time on vacation for 3 weeks while she wondering who I'm with and what I'm doing.

    Thanks for the support! Hopefully I can keep this state of mind. She's really damn manipulative and has known me for quite some time so really knows how to get my guard down.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 02:57 PM
    411Help

    You didn't respond, right?
  • Jan 17, 2009, 03:00 PM
    ascetic0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 411Help View Post
    You didn't respond, right?

    No she can sit there and wonder for all I care right now.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 03:28 PM
    sully123

    I just think she is stringing you along, and playing with your emotions. I say pack up whatever is at that house, solve the dog situation, and move on. Meet new friends, and forget about her, as hard as it is. Good luck..
  • Jan 17, 2009, 05:27 PM
    talaniman
    I am a big believer in handling your business after a break up, which means anything you have joint responsibility in get rid of it. Cut all ties, and let her worry about her responsibility.

    She can pay all the rent since your not there. That goes for any other bills, and then disappear from her life so she will know when you dump a guy, your alone.

    After you get kicked to the curb, what the freak does what she want matter? Rebuild your life. Better to be a free and single a##hole, than a sucker!

    Give the dogs a good home. That includes you too, partner!
  • Jan 19, 2009, 08:06 AM
    ascetic0
    It's been exactly one month since the 6 year relationship ended.
    *2 threads merged *

    We were together for 6 years, never spent a day apart during this time until she broke it off during the holidays. The first month was a blur and every day still pretty much is. I can't even comprehend when I did what and with who at this point.

    She broke up with me, then said lets take it slow and consider it "dating." Obviously that didn't work in the state I was in and then it quickly degraded into being "friends." In the beginning I couldn't stop crying around her and she just said it made her feel too guilty. Sometimes she'd cry too saying something like "i always saw you in my future, you were always there... then one day i couldn't see you there anymore." I never called her first, never texted her first (and I still dont) but she knows I'm leaving for about a month out of town and wants to see me before I leave.

    I had dinner at her house last night because I had some promises to her mother (which is a great woman I couldn't let down) to fix some things I had started to before the breakup. She broke down and cried and told me she loved me and didn't want me to go and didn't know what she'd do without me those few weeks. I didn't give in but told her I love her too (in more of a love-you-as-a-friend tone). She hugged me and I left.

    Before I got home she sent a text "it was really good to see you and im very glad you came over. Want to go jogging tomorrow?" As much as I've tried not to keep in contact with her (well at least very LOW contact), I agreed. I felt a little power in the fact that she knew I was leaving for awhile and cried knowing she'd miss me so much.

    Then like an idiot I answered a phone call from her later when I wasn't in the best of moods. She said "you seem like you're not here, out of it or angry" I told her I was just very stressed with work and that's all (which really was 50% of it).

    Her and her mom invited me to dinner again tonight (I really miss her moms cooking!) and even though its probably a mistake, I'm sure I'll go. Since I'll be gone for awhile I feel that those 3-5 weeks would be the start of the little-to-no contact (and I definitely won't be able to see her).

    I felt OK with the situation for a couple days but after the phone call last night, I felt a bit worse (still not as bad as the first month).

    The hardest part of this all is she is so damn understanding of it all. She allows me to make my mistakes knowing the stress I'm under because of this. And I won't lie: I was 75% of the cause of the breakup. I became so stressed out from the situation I was living in (work, bills, no life, etc) that I took her for granted and mistreated her.

    It's hard to blame someone when you know you're more at fault then she was (not that she didn't have her faults too!). She stopped seeing me in her future because I had done some things to her (didn't show up to her birthday dinner, walked out during every argument, put her down etc).

    I was just so stressed about my life I couldn't of handled a girlfriend anyway. She was very much in love with me in the beginning but the things I did, the mistreating, lead her to have to end it. I can't really blame her.

    Now that I've started to work on myself, all the other stresses are easing and I'm feeling more like myself. What sucks is that if I could have done this before, I never would have mistreated her. I try not to dwell on what-ifs though.

    She tells me things like "don't lose hope" and "every day i stop myself from taking you back" and "im mostly doing this to work on myself and let you work on yourself too"

    The hardest part is not being friends with her... it's almost like I owe it to her for all the crap I put her through. Now that my head is cleared and I've started to take control of my own life, I am becoming exactly what she wanted me to be... and that realization just basically sucks since this has happened.

    Anyway, sorry for the long post. Maybe I just needed to get that out there.
  • Jan 19, 2009, 08:14 AM
    zeeniee

    Hey Ascetic0,
    One month is nothing when comparing to a 6year relationship. I think you need time on your own and so you can sort yourself out properly and realise your mistakes and so you never do them again.
  • Jan 19, 2009, 04:53 PM
    talaniman

    That's quite a turnaround from your last post so, has the financial business been settled or what?

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